Talk:Pagani Zonda

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'it will be the queen in braking from 300 km/h to 0 (186 mph to 0).' that seems to be incomplete. 61.17.227.14 15:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Can we get some pics in there?

Hello, Its me BOOST a new member here i decided to join after seeing your nice encyclopedia and the exellent work you did.. So i thought i might be able to help..

I am a big fan of the Pagani Zonda, In general.. and after seeing the Zonda's article i thought of adding some of what i know specaily after noticing lots of missing Info about the car. till now i added 2 pics only and am working on the others, am working very hard to make the Zonda's article be one of the bests between other Supercars. After i complete editing this article i will be pleased to here your opinions and suggestions and i hope you will like it =)

faithful and proud to be here.. BOOST 20:38, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

hello again its me BOOST..

i did receive ur letter and i just wanted to say, most of the Info i took was from these siets\ links: http://www.7extrememotorsports.com/lemans/cars/gts-pagani-zonda-gr.htm http://www.qv500.com/paganizondap4.php www.paganiautomobili.it www.fast-autos.net

and i wanna ask, how can i substantially reword these sections?? shall i put a link at the button of each article that leads to the site i took the info from??

thanks


 * Never mind. I rewrote those sections so they are no longer pasted from those other articles.  Thanks again for the input, and I look forward to more in the future!  --SFoskett 12:23, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

"The power-to-weight ratio of 545.4 hp/ton allows the car to hit 215 mph (346 km/h)."


 * Power-to-weight ratios have nothing to do with achieving top speeds, they're more indicative of accelerative potential, a = F/m. --Hooperbloob 09:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Zonda Production Numbers
From evo magazine, issue #090, April 2006:

"25 Roadster Fs will be built, matching the 25-car run of the coupe Fs (15 of which have already been sold). To date, 63 Zondas in various specs have left the Pagani factory"

If this is correct, the USA can't possibly have 70 F's offered per year. --Aml_0000 11:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

the zonda is listed as a mere sports car here, but isn't it a hypercar? a sports car is more like the mercedes slk but the zonda is more than that, its a hypercar and so is the huayra. a supercar is more of such cars like the ferrari 458 italia or the audi r8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.98.182 (talk) 11:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Engine Capacities
From the Zonda C12:

"It was powered by a 7.3 L (5987 cc)..."

and from the Zonda C12-S

"...used a 7.3 L (7010 cc) version of the engine..."

...What on earth? 203.166.111.34 01:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.

In addition, the original 6.0L C12 engine was not tuned by AMG. --Aml_0000 10:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

The Zonda R will use a 6.0L engine, not 7.3L.--Aml_0000 06:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.fast-autos.net/pagani/pagani.html
 * In Pagani Zonda on Mon Jul 17 15:12:47 2006, 404 Not Found
 * In Pagani Zonda on Thu Jul 27 00:42:35 2006, 404 Not Found

maru  (talk)  contribs 04:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pic of the Zonda F
I think there should be a picture of the Zonda F. I found a good one but it is probably copyrighted: http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2005/2005-Pagani-Zonda-F-n-FA-Top-1024x768.jpg

If anyone knows of a free image that would be great. X360 07:25, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Goldplated enginebay
I think the Zonda got goldplated enginebay to reduce heat, is that true? RGDS Alexmcfire
 * The McLaren F1 does, but I'm not sure about the Zonda. James086Talk 01:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the Zonda doesn't feature gold foil in the engine compartment.--Aml_0000 08:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Appearances in media
"Since its first appearance in Gran Turismo 3 A-spec for the C12 and C12S, the Zonda in various guises has made numerous appearances in video games as well as being driven by Danica Patrick in Jay-Z's Show Me What You Got music video and for the Zonda F, was timed at its then fastest time of 1.18.4 for TV showTop Gear" - it's a crappy sentence overall, but what does "was timed at its then fasted time" mean in this context? 0-60mph, standing quarter-mile, tyre change? -Ashley Pomeroy 11:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe that is the time around the Top Gear test track.82.33.119.96 (talk) 21:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Power units
As the PS unit is listed as obsolete on the horsepower page, shouldn't we give the power in just hp and kW? Benandorsqueaks 04:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

C12S Engine Spec
The C12S has a 7.3L AMG V12. (Wolf3297 (talk) 11:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC))

Zonda R
Do not understand why this was omitted. Uses an AMG 6.0L V12, lighter than all the Zondas, yet no mention of it in this wiki. Why? Space Turbo (talk) 09:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Crashed Zonda
BBC are reporting the largest ever insurance payout for repairs to a private car in the UK is for a silver Zonda that was crashed near Aberdeen (perhaps the one pictured here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zondac12s70.jpg).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8584878.stm

And why do you think this should be reported in an informative article? U1 quattro  TALK''  15:09, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism
I somehow doubt that "The added power and improved aerodynamics allow the car [2003 Zonda GR] to hit a billion-gazillion mph." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.168.81 (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

There is a lot of vandalism on this one..from the very first sentence! how do we report it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sreenath116 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Production numbers again
What is the source of 206 units? I've only been able to find that the 760RS pushed the numbers of units produced close to 120 so the 206 seems rather optimistic Mike.BRZ (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Pagani Zonda Cinque NFS edition
I know that title sounds ridiculous, but this car exists in real life. Originaly it was Prototipo 2 model, but it was modificated especially for "Pagani vs Lamborghini: Need for Speed Hot Pursuit" video (as said in "Making of - Pagani vs Lamborghini: Need for Speed Hot Pursuit"), and the process of making this Cinque was supervised by Horacio Pagani himself. The question is: why there is no info about it? Just asking. 92.126.245.18 (talk) 12:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Prototipo 2 is the development car for all Zonda's. It will have been the one used, as you said, but after that it has gone on to be the test car for the 760RS etc, therefor not an actual Zonda edition. There is a piece about this in a recent issue of Evo Issue 170 in their segment 20 things you didn't know....about the Pagani Zonda Dave logic(Talk) 13:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Zonda R Evolution - Born from a typo?
Just my two cents. I do not think the Zonda R Evolution exists at all. It isn't listed on the Pagani website. The mentioned specs are similar (or even exactly the same) as the closely named Zonda Revolución. It seems more likely that someone might have accidentally added a space in the word Revolucion and never corrected it, and the news outlets and blogs went with it. A youtube video showing the so called Zonda R Evolution seems to me to be just a regular Zonda R. Even if such car was a precursor, a prototype of the upcoming Revolución, the Revolución description on the Pagani website makes no mention of it. Alguemimportante (talk) 16:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

There are mentions of it. I have added a source in the article on Pagani Zonda R. U1 quattro   TALK''  02:05, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Zonda C12
I'm curious about the information here, the content is cut-and-pasted straight from the source, and I don't feel that the refusal of purchase by Pagani is explained enough through the source. Viper polo (talk) 17:12, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Source removed. There are no actual proofs of this and most of the material on the web was taken from this article. U1 quattro  TALK''  13:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Reasons for Zonda R split
The reasons are fairly simple. The Zonda R is based on the same principles as the Ferrari XX cars. It is based on the Zonda but is an entirely different car only sharing 10% of the parts with the Zonda itself. Like the XX cars, it is a test bed for new technologies and has an entirely different engine, transmission and body work. There was no reason to include it as a section in this article. U1 quattro  TALK''  15:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

One-offs
, a one-off edition is not notable for simply existing. The reason I kept the other specials is because they belong to people who have their own articles on Wikipedia, and are properly sourced. Exclusive Car Registry is not a reliable source, nor is Wikipedia a place for a registry of every single one-off in existence. If this was the case, the Ferrari Enzo article would have 399 entries. Same with the Lamborghini Reventon. See where this gets out of hand? Until you can demonstrate if the one-offs are notable (crashing is not notable either unless a significant person died or a significant sum was paid out, such as a record), I will be removing them. It is practically WP:CRUFT. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 20:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)