Talk:Palm sugar

Gula merah
Gula merah ("red sugar") or gula jawa in Indonesia is mostly not made from Borassus but from aren Arenga pinnata peduncles sap. User:Kembangraps from id: wikipedia Talk

Sentence needs rewriting
" These tend to white hard blobs" I'm not sure what it is trying to say?

Mystic eye (talk) 23:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Coconut sugar

 * The above were copied from Talk:Coconut sugar to here. --Phonet (talk) 08:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Palm sugar and gula melaka are not the same. Gula melaka is made from the sap of the coconut tree (cocos nucifera) not the palmyra tree. The taste of gula melaka and other 'sugars' such as gula merah or jaggery derived from palm trees are radically different. Please do not merge the articles as it would be misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asiansoul (talk • contribs)

Looks like this page should be merged with the Coconut sugar page. Thoughts? 209.66.74.34 (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Merging palm sugar, jaggery and coconut sugar might be appropriate. There are a lot of articles about different unrefined sugars, but I think a distinction between those sourced from palms and those sourced from sugar cane should be maintained. I'm not opposed to merging the various articles about palm derived sugars though.Plantdrew (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The gula melaka page has a source claiming that gula melaka]] is not always coconut palm sugar. We need to take into account some marketing hype around these products. HLHJ (talk) 05:35, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Suport the merge. As coconut palm is a type of palm, it seems like a better idea to merge the coconut sugar article into the palm sugar article. --Phonet (talk) 05:29, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Cabbages and broccoli are both brassicas - should we merge them? Andy Dingley (talk) 23:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose Whatever the botanical connection, the geographical and culinary distinctions are clear. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I've removed the merge tags, as there is no consensus to merge the articles at this time. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Conflicting Information Palm Sugar / Coconut Sugar: Wiki disagrees with itself
The articles on Palm Sugar Palm sugar and coconut sugar currently (May 2014) disagree with one another:

Coconut sugar : "In some areas, predominantly in Thailand, the terms "coconut sugar" and "palm sugar" are often used interchangeably. However, coconut sugar is different both in taste, texture and manufacture methods from palm sugar, which is made from the sap in the stems of the Palmyra palm, the date palm, the sugar date palm, the sago palm or the sugar palm."

versus

Palm sugar : "Often the distinction is made between coconut sugar and palm sugar, but this only reflects the different species from which the sugar is sourced, i.e. coconut sugar is produced in an identical way. Thailand is one place where the distinction is made and the difference is due to palm sugar being produced there from the tree trunk of the sugar palm, whilst coconut sugar is tapped from the inflorescences of the coconut palm. The differences are semantic, as all the sugars under their various names are still produced from the sucrose rich sap of a palm species." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randal Oulton (talk • contribs) 16:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Helpme request
I am in a bit of an editing battle with User:Zefr on this article. May I ask that a third-party look into the chain of reverts that has ensued. I am trying to be constructive. Frankly, I think he is trying to be the opposite. Thank you, Seligne (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, you are both engaged in an edit war and could both be sanctioned for violating the three-revert-rule. You should both immediately stop what you are doing and start a discussion here.  It would be logical for  to start a new section stating what information they want to add, what their sources are, and why they think it's important.   can then express their reasons for having opposed prior inclusion.  Other editors will, no doubt, contribute their views.  This is the normal cycle of editing and consensus-building that all editors are expected to engage in.  Further edit-warring will almost certainly result in sanctions.  Good luck.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Names in different countries
Moving out of the article per WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTDICT. --Zefr (talk) 16:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Names


 * Bangladesh/Bengal: gur (jaggery), taal patali (solidified sap of palmyra palm sugar), khejura-cini (date palm sugar)
 * Burma: jaggery
 * Cambodia: skor tnot
 * Indonesia: gula kelapa, gula aren, gula merah, gula semut (gula jawa in the Netherlands)
 * Kannada: Ole bella
 * Kerala: panam kalkandam, Karippatti, Karipetti, Karippotti
 * Laos: nam tan pip
 * Malaysia: gula anau, gula melaka , gula kabung , arenga pinnata
 * Philippines: Pakaskas
 * Sri Lanka: jaggery, kitul-hakuru, tal-hakuru
 * Tamil Nadu: panam karkandu,Karupatti,panai vellam
 * Telugu: nalla bellam, thaati bellam (palm jaggery)
 * Thailand: coconut palm sugar: (น้ำตาลมะพร้าว; ); sugar palm sugar: (น้ำตาลโตนด; )
 * Vietnam: đường thốt nốt

Ingredients?
In the German version there is already a lack of information by naming only "saccharose" as ingredient, but you can't even find this here... hm. --Mideal (talk) 22:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Chendol
Under the section "Local Variants". is the following

Other examples include chendol and ondeh ondeh, a ball-shaped dessert made from glutinous rice flour, filled with gula melaka, and covered in shredded coconut.

This is confusing as it makes chendol sound equivalent to ondeh ondeh when cendol is a sweet iced dessert drink. I propose the following change underlined text is new.

Other examples include chendol a sweet iced dessert drink and ondeh ondeh, a ball-shaped dessert made from glutinous rice flour, filled with gula melaka, and covered in shredded coconut. thaddeusmaximus (talk) 05:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)