Talk:Panegyric

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"and reserved the funeral oration exclusively for the dead"

Isn't this statement tautological? Who but the dead would receive a funeral oration? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.138.246 (talk • contribs) 12:49, 24 October 2011‎


 * I think it means "and reserved the funeral oration alone for the dead". But I agree, it's (at best) ambiguous as it stands. Perhaps it could be recast as "the panegyric was reserved for the living, while the dead would have only a funeral oration". Thoughts, anyone?
 * Alec 15:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alec.brady (talk • contribs)


 * That statement is taken directly from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. What might help here is finding a second source which makes the distinction clearer to contemporary readers. It could also be that they were using "funeral" as an adjective as opposed to a noun, using the meaning "funereal", i.e., sad and serious. This would contrast with the panegyric which, per the Britannica, was meant to be rousing. But I agree, the difference is not at all clear as it is currently written. -- GentlemanGhost   (converse)  19:51, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with Alex Brady. Tbat a dated, substandard encyclopedia has been used a source cannot be reasons for not rewording the passage so as to make sense. No second source is required for this. Str1977 (talk) 22:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)