Talk:Parasports

Skateboarding
Wheelchair skateboarding is a fast growing area of disabled sports. Athletes such as Tyler Dieth and Aaron Fotheringham and Darwin Holmes have brought the sport to international attention and many young disabled people are picking up on it. While there is an article on Aaron in Wiki, there is nothing about wheelchair skateboarding. I would like to propose that there is a mention here in disabled sports about it, with links to skateboarding and to some well known participants. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.222.71.194 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll add it under other sports; it isn't part of the official Paralympic movement yet. This is a very general article with no specific detail on any sports or athletes; that information should go in an article on the sport. I think it's a good candidate for an article, but I haven't got the knowledge to write it. Perhaps you could create an account and make the page yourself? - Eron Talk 23:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I dont mind writing the article, but I really haven't got the time to learn the wiki do's and don'ts. I know it can be very strict. I suggest that I write an article and when ready, I will leave you a note here and we can communicate further by email for editing. Let me know if you agree.

Olympics response
The section at the end is (inadvertantly, probably) written a little unfairly to the Olympic Games. It should be clear that the controversies are over the adaptations involved--that they allege that certain equipment or measures provide an advantage to the disabled athlete, and they feel they'd rather exclude the adaptation if they're not sure it doesn't. Writing things like, including disabled athletes remains controversial, makes them look like some sort of supervillains or something. And it's demonstrably false--they have approved certain adaptations, like visual cues for timed events and so forth (anothe thing that isn't mentioned here). I agree they should do more, but this just isn't an informative way to write the section.205.212.73.217 12:03, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think that the statement "including disabled athletes remains controversial" makes anyone look bad; it is a sourced statement that simply points out that there is controversy around inclusion. I don't see the unfairness. And I think the question of inclusion is more about including events for persons with disabilities - where they compete against each other - than it is about including persons with disabilities in events with able-bodied persons. - Eron Talk 14:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

are the sports disabled??
naming it "disabled sports" means the sports are disabled, not the athletes. is this really the term used??--Sonjaaa (talk) 19:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. This is the most commonly used term, at least in U.S. English, to talk about sports for people with disabilities. "Adaptive sports" is also used (and probably sounds better according to your line of thinking), but it is less common.

Charolastra charolo (talk) 19:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually "disability sport" seems far more common. I hardle ever see "disabled sport" being used by quality sources. Roger (talk) 16:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Sports/olympics for the Blind
Hello,

I see no real mention of any organization dealing with blind athletes. Are there any formal organizations for blind athletes? And are any of these organizations comparable to the "Special Olympics" organizers? (I must admit that I thought the "Special Olympics" were for all persons with any kind of disability and only recently found out that it was for those with a mental disability.)

I have only found one or two state level organizations. If there really isn't anything I remain surprised that this hasn't been dealt with in a more national/international level.

- thank you, Energywave (talk) 02:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sport for blind and visually impaired athletes falls under the category of Paralympic sports and is covered in more detail in that article. Internationally, these athletes are governed by the International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA). Blind and visually impaired athletes compete at the Paralympic Games along with other athletes with physical disabilities. They participate in multi-disability sports include athletics, swimming, and cycling, as well as some sports specific to blind and visually impaired athletes such as Goalball, Judo, and Football 5-a-side. - EronTalk 02:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * ISBA, International Sports Organization for Disabled (ISOD) and Cerebral Palsy International Sports and Recreation Association (CPISRA) really need to be in that "Organisation and history" section. CPISRA early history: http://www.cpisra.org.za/overview.html (Add it to my ever-growing To Do list, right? Unless there are other takers?) Sportygeek (talk) 09:41, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Disabled swimmer
has come up in the discussion for which is at WP:RFD. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 02:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: No move. As noted, per WP:RETAIN, we'd need a very good reason to change wording from one variety of English to another, and editors' opinions that a name "sounds a little strange" don't really do it. There was no consensus to go against the usual practices in this instance. Cúchullain t/ c 19:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Disabled sports → Disability sports – As mentioned before by another user, I rarely see the term "Disabled sports" used, it sounds a little strange. However, a number of outlets, including the BBC, use the term "Disability sports" instead. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * support. The sports themselves are not disabled. 172.9.22.150 (talk) 00:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think, however, that the references refer to it (in the USA at least), as "Disabled Sports".   GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 02:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * One could argue that the Paralympics have strong ties to the UK per WP:ENGVAR, and a lot of major British sources use "Disability sport". ViperSnake151   Talk  03:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * One could argue that spaceflight articles should always use American English with that kind of reasoning. Are the vast majority of disability sports participants from the English-speaking world currently British? Does Britain win the vast majority of the international disability sporting events? Do the vast majority of disability sporting events in the English-speaking world currently occur in Britain? Will Britain will the vast majority of the medals/golds at the 2014 Paralympics from the English-speaking world? Did it do so at the 2012 Paralympics? Were the Special Olympics invented in Britain? It'd have to be a "yes" to most of those to show some kind of great link to Britain. (and yes, the United States has a much better claim for spaceflight than Britain does to parasport) -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 09:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above. GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 09:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Support the sports are not disabled (the athletes are). Harold O&#39;Brian (talk) 03:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose WP:ENGVAR, North American English v British English. The article started at "disabled sports" in 2002, and the first non-stub version in 2004 still used "disabled sports". "Disability sports" is a very weird title for North American English; in particular note the governing body is called Disabled Sports USA, not Disability Sports USA. Instead, choose a different title that does not involve the "disabled/disability" dichotomy. I note the article uses adaptive sports and parasports which would not involve this dialect clash. parasport(s) seems better than adaptive sport(s) to me. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 09:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose as proposed; it runs directly contrary to our policy on English varieties (see WP:ENGVAR). "Disability sports" sounds bizarre and very British to me. So I guess this is a WP:RETAIN issue. I am not necessarily opposed to a more generic title, however. Red Slash 00:35, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose This would simply replace one English variant with a different one, and no doubt eventually we would see a proposal to change it back. I would be open to finding a better generic title. Agree that adaptive sports and parasport are good candidates but there would need to be discussion. EronTalk 18:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Support this or another move that isn't to a neologism. In contrast to the previous American English speakers, this speaker of American English finds the current title strange because it implies that the sports themselves are disabled. It's hard for me to see this as an WP:ENGVAR issue. Dekimasu よ! 16:04, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The American federation is still called Disabled Sports USA; if we're to avoid using the disabled/disability trouble spot, which alternate name would you use? parasport(s)? adaptive sport(s)? -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 05:50, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * What do the refs say? GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 09:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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Running blades
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Requested move 24 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 15:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Disabled sports → Parasports – in line with Paralympic Games and circumvents the WP:ENGVAR issue about Disabled sports versus Disability sports. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:01, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support as discussion starter at Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 20. Parasports is the common usage for top level competition and avoids the semantic gap disabled sports creates because able-bodied people may also take part in them. SFB 19:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Support: That seems much better than the current title, although it doesn't seem like a very familiar term. (It also somewhat implies paralysis, and the first thing that jumped into my head was Paragliding and Parachuting as sports.) Alternatives could be "", "", or """. The current title seems horrible. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


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