Talk:Pentium III

Needs disambiguation
This needs disambiguation from the Katmai area of Alaska (see Novarupta). Jdorje 01:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Pentium III Mobile
Until the introduction of the Pentium 4 mobile series of chips, and then the Pentium M itself, the PIII-M was the most popular mobile chip out there, but not even a mention of it here. --Fxer 16:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

wattage in core listing
in listing of cores it would be nice to include the thermal wattage.

Merging
I disargee with the proposition of combining the article Coppermine with Pentium III. The Pentium III article should simply state each cores significance to the entire series, while further elaboration should be left to the article on that core in particular. Tom 03:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Mounting Technology
It would be nice also to have mounting information. If you dig through the text you can find some wattage info.

Coppermines, Pentiums, and Clocking
First, it is interesting to note that the "600 MHz Pentium III" was made in virtually every sensible combination of package/FSB/cache/stepping. I count at least 25 different S-specs, and that excludes the Celerons.

Of Pentium III cores, Coppermine bridged the gap from 500MHz to >1GHz, and probably deserves the main emphasis? Each new stepping fixed some issues, quietly. All following needs to be verified: first stepping cA2 was not SMP capable; the cB0 had longer pipeline; cC0 reduced die size, upped core voltage, had less capacitors on pin side, and could SMP at 1GHz. Stepping cD0 ups the core Vcc again by .05, specifies higher thermal design.

There's an abundance of information regarding overclocking. Rarely is underclocking or undervolting explored. One Celeron 700//1.7v that I have tested seems to run stable at Vcore 1.3. Passive cooling... Resources with such data would be greatly appreciated.

Regarding wattage. Same good site http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm has compiled lists of CPU power requirements. For authoritative data, search at developer.intel.com try e.g. "24526408"

Just for your information, my machine says this (# lshw): *-cpu description: CPU product: Pentium III (Coppermine) vendor: Intel Corp.         physical id: 4 bus info: cpu@0 version: 6.8.6 slot: J4L1 size: 800MHz capacity: 1200MHz width: 32 bits clock: 133MHz capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse up So it seems the Coppermine have been released also at 1,2GHz.Wedinm (talk) 10:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Intel Pentium III-S 1.53Ghz
Tualatin are also clocked 1.53Ghz [ 11.5x ] for HP computers:

Click Here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.169.107.61 (talk) 18:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

I have a 1.2Ghz (512k) Tualatin PIII with no heat-spreader, why does the wiki page state that only S models come with 512k L2 cache? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madjimms (talk • contribs) 19:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Should i add a picture of a Katmai
Hey, i have a old Katmai PIII, so i was thinking since there is no good picture of it, i could take my own and put it here. But im not so good at this wikipedia thing, so could you help me out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.81.44.83 (talk) 23:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Pictures
These pictures are unclear and the captions are ambiguous. Somebody should work on this. HoCkEy PUCK 04:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, and why is there a Katmai picture in the Coppermine subsection? Perhaps someone should produce a single picture of the Katmai with includes both the open and the closed view. --Klaws 10:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Intel Pentium III Processor Logo.svg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Intel Pentium III-M Processor Logo.svg
Image:Intel Pentium III-M Processor Logo.svg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

coppermine pic
hi i just added a coppermine p3 to the article--Thunderpenguin (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Pentium III's SSE implementation
This section doesn't specify whether this issue effected ALL Pentium III models or just the Katmai 96.232.200.150 (talk) 03:45, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

well according to GCC's manual they claim "The earlier version of SSE instruction set supports only single precision arithmetics, thus the double and extended precision arithmetics is still done using 387. Later version, present only in Pentium4 and the future AMD x86-64 chips supports double precision arithmetics too." so I assume all pentium3's double-cycle with both SSE and x87 FPU's, and not just Katmai 96.232.200.150 (talk) 00:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

More "stylised as" nonsense
There's no evidence that the slanted "III" in the Pentium III logo is supposed to actually be three exclamation marks.

"Stylised as" fluff may be acceptable where the stylisation is (a) notable and (b) clearly intended to be textual itself (e.g. "M*A*S*H"), but attempting to render graphical design details- which is what they are here- in a purely-text based form where they wouldn't normally be applied is misleading. Particularly when it results in an inaccurate attempt to approximate a graphic logo in text- such as "pentium !!!"- in a manner that no-one uses in real life.

(The "Apple ][" and "Apple ///" logos may be an exception, but only because those had *already* become widely-used text-based stylisations amongst users and fans of those formats. I see no such evidence in this case).

Ubcule (talk) 14:09, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Controversy about privacy issues
This section presents the situation as if the problem was definitively solved. However, most people use Windows. Since Windows 10 the SystemIdentificationInfo class has been available to developers which stores a unique id in the TPM, UEFI or registry depending on which is available. This means that on most computers this id will survive a clean install of the operating system.

But even before Windows 10 there are options. For example, Windows Vista and later generate a MachineGUID on installation and store it in the registry. It tends to generate the same value when you reinstall on the same machine, but on the other hand it can be the same when cloning installations (and failing to prepare the clones) and it could be changed by the user. Still, for most home users this value will uniquely identify their computer. Most people don't know this value is present or could be changed and even then they'd have to actually bother to change it every now and then. And risk being confronted by unexpected breakage if some piece of software expected this value to be unchanging.

And even since Windows XP, the Windows product id is stored, which is derived from the product key. Most home users will have one product key unique to them per computer and can be easily identified.

Beyond Windows, several of the components of your computer have serial numbers. Some can be changed, like the MAC address of your network card, but most users won't do this. Others cannot be changed and although some are not unique by themselves, in practice it's possible to uniquely identify any given computer by just grabbing all the numbers you can get your hands on.

Bottom line: given all the other unique pieces of information present in any given computer, the question whether the processor exposes a unique serial number is pretty much immaterial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.201.88.231 (talk) 22:26, 1 February 2018 (UTC)