Talk:Port Vale F.C.

Christian Smith
Hello, I am looking on information on Christian Smith, who was recently released and has signed for Clyde, as I am trying to create an article on him. Thanks. Ck12 19:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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History
Where is the first 100 years of it? 129.67.127.65 (talk) 14:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, someone who knows it write about it, will probably mean having to have a seperate article for the history then which is fair enough.--EchetusXe (talk) 00:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

NPOV
I -tagged the article after reading the following:


 * These next two seasons, Vale fans were to witness some of the best football the club has ever played, and even had fans dreaming of the Premiership in the second half of the 1996/97 campaign.


 * The replay was to prove a night to remember, Vale Park was full to capacity, to see Guppy and McCarthy produce a masterclass in wing play.


 * The game finished 0-0, in a tie where The Valiants were arguably the better side, and should have won.

I can see there's more to come, so the tag should remain until I finish the copyedit. - Dudesleeper / Talk  20:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Stoke City "poorer supported"?
Can it possibly be true that a League Two team is better supported than a Premier League team in the same city, or this just a bit of vandalism? Citation needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.148.131 (talk) 23:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * 'Twas vandalism from earlier this month. Removed now. - Dudesleeper / Talk  06:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Pictures
This article is a mass of text, some pictures would really improve it.--EchetusXe (talk) 01:29, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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 * Whatever they said to use it on the Stoke City article, we say the same but with the words 'Stoke City' replaced with the words 'Port Vale', thank you. They are low quality images of deceased people of no commercial value with no free alternatives. --EchetusXe (talk) 17:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Potteries derby
If anyone is interested I would love to create a good Potteries derby article. We could have the Stoke City season-by-season graph, create a Port Vale one and put them together onto one graph. Write various stats, players who played for both sides, table of results etc.


 * Now I have created it- Potteries derby. Only trouble is, some nuisance is trying to delete it. Contribute here if you wish to keep the article.--EchetusXe (talk) 16:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Never mind, feel free to add to the article though!--EchetusXe (talk) 14:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Dubious
The article says:


 * "Port Vale are one of two English league clubs not to be named after a geographical location (the second being Arsenal). The name Port Vale exists on maps pre-dating the 1876 formation of the club, and is a reference to a valley of ports on the Trent and Mersey Canal, associated with the city's pottery industry."

This appears not to make sense. If "Port Vale" is a name on maps describing a valley of ports then the name is after a geographical location.

"Arsenal" is arguably a geographical location too, being named after the Royal Arsenal at Woolwich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.241.132 (talk • contribs)


 * Port Vale existed on maps, as in the name of various buildings, not of a specific area.--EchetusXe 16:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Based on the information that has been provided, it is a "geographical location" according to my understanding of that term. I do not see how a named "valley of ports" can be anything else. Perhaps the author meant to say "not named after a town or city". That would make more sense to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.231.136 (talk • contribs)

By the same criteria, Crystal Palace would join Port Vale and Arsenal as English league clubs not named after a "geographical location". The writer really means to say "not named after a city or town". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.251.89.129 (talk • contribs)


 * Often the simplest solutions are the best.--EchetusXe 13:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe a good few years late now, but I think that this secion simply needs removing
 * "Port Vale is one of the few English league clubs not to be named after a city or town"
 * Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa, Crystal Palace and Fulham are seven such sides (out of only twenty) in the Prmier League alone. Removing this.   L.J.Skinner wot 21:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * They are all places... Chelsea, London; Everton, Liverpool, Tottenham; Crystal Palace, London, Fulham.--EchetusXe 00:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * But the articles states Port Vale is " not named after a city or town". None of those places are either cities or towns, right? 84.93.221.7 (talk) 07:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I suppose it was more accurate to say "not named after a geographical location" as it originally did. I'll change it.--EchetusXe 21:18, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * How is that more accurate? The article makes clear that it is named after a geographical location, namely "a valley of ports on the Trent and Mersey Canal". As it stands the article is blatantly contradicting itself. Let's just remove the sentence. – Smyth\talk 09:54, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No, there is no geographical location called Port Vale. It is not named after a geographical location. When the club was called Burslem Port Vale then Burslem was the location. But apart from that time the club was and is not named after a geographical location.--EchetusXe 01:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * The article says "The name Port Vale exists on maps pre–dating the formation of the club". So is that sentence wrong, or is the "not named after a geographical location" sentence wrong? They can't both be true. – Smyth\talk
 * "Here can be found Port Vale Street. Alongside the Trent and Mersey Canal sits Port Vale Flour Mill, where formerly there was a Port Vale Wharf, and once upon a time there was a Port Vale House along what is now Scott Lidgett Road (formerly Limekiln Road) in Longport. Longport was also home to the Midland and Port Vale Tileries, whose site is buried beneath the D Road." Not a geographical location, just stuff.--EchetusXe 09:44, 18 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Surely the name "Port Vale" comes from a road in Hertford. Gwladys24 (talk) 22:50, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * What makes you think that?--EchetusXe 23:51, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * There's a road in Hertford called Port Vale & I've never seen it on a map anywhere else. Gwladys24 (talk) 21:42, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

And still, a couple of years later it reads: "Port Vale is one of the few English league clubs not to be named after a geographical location, their name being a reference to the valley of ports on the Trent and Mersey Canal." The writer of this might well know some reason why this is not, technically, two conflicting phrases put into one sentence, but I am pretty sure the majority of people won't know what that reason is, and for this reason I don't think it's a very informative sentence - just in that, to the layperson, it's indistinguishable from a flat-out contradiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.162.0 (talk) 22:45, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Forest Green Rovers are not named after a geographical location. They are also a EFL team 192.28.126.101 (talk) 10:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The club was established in 1889 by Rev. E.J.H. Peach, representing the Forest Green area of Nailsworth.[3] --EchetusXe 13:13, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Port Vale Reserves
The section regarding Port Vale Reserves contains an inaccuracy or at least an ambiguity: the team was definitely NOT in the Cheshire County League between 1963-64 season and the formation of the Northern Premier League in 1968-69. I watched the Chesire League regularly in those days and whislt there were a number of Reserve sides from the Football League (Chester, Wrexham, Tranmere, Crewe), Port Vale were not one of them212.167.5.6 (talk) 16:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)Guru

Edit request on 7 March 2012
On the 6th March 2012 Stoke-on-Trent City council applied to the high court to put Port Vale into Administration so that a buyer could be found for the Club.

CarlGratty (talk) 12:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Would have preferred to wait until administration was confirmed but ok.--EchetusXe 18:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Previous Chairmen
Removed this an unreferenced, it is interesting though--EchetusXe 17:26, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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Capacity
We have added 203 seats to Vale park to lake the capacity 19,255 Pvfcrpn41 (talk) 23:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you provide any evidence of that? Thanks.--EchetusXe 12:03, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Charley McMillan-Lopez
Any Vale fans got any recollection of a player called Charley McMillan-Lopez being at the club - for context [see discussions on WikiProject Football] Zanoni (talk) 14:58, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No lol.--EchetusXe 17:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Port Vale is the only English Football League club not to be named after a place?
Forest Green? 2A00:23C6:2E02:1001:506C:7A16:6FB6:4DC6 (talk) 11:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The club was established in 1889 by Rev. E.J.H. Peach, representing the Forest Green area of Nailsworth.--EchetusXe 15:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

In my opinion, the statement as is is way too vague and unsourced, so I have removed it for now. It's unclear what a "settlement" is clearly defined as in terms of naming. Arsenal, although the team included Woolwich in its name in the past, is not really not named after a settlement but a munitions facility. Likewise, Crystal Palace is arguably named after the building and not the neighborhood. --Sasquatch t&#0124;c 18:16, 2 November 2023 (UTC)