Talk:PulteGroup

News article that might fit here
For consideration by regular and knowledgeable editors: --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice ad for Pulte Homes
Looks like the company wrote this ad themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.173.50 (talk) 19:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Criticism section
I have restored the 'Criticism' section removed by. According to whois, this IP maps to "PULTE HOMES PULTE-HO420-72", suggesting that this removal is an instance of Conflict of Interest. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 21:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I have restored the 'Criticism' and 'References' sections removed by. This user's only edit was to remove these sections without explanation. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC) I restored the 'Criticism' section which was removed by without justification yet again. A12774125 (talk) 08:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Criticism section has been removed. Again. Wikipedia does allow criticism of private businesses, you know.--152.65.33.199 (talk) 20:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the criticism section was removed without comment and missing for around 9 years. After the string of attempts to remove it that were documented above, it looks like the last time it was removed was in December 2009:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PulteGroup&type=revision&diff=329168922&oldid=321498780&diffmode=source

Today I restored it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PulteGroup&oldid=831780429 mennonot (talk)

Proposing changes to the content of the page
Information to be added or removed:

1. In the infobox please update the 'Production Output' parameter to read as: 23,107 new home deliveries, 'Revenue' parameter to $10.188 billion (2018) , 'Net Income' parameter to $1.022 billion (2018) , 'Total Assets' parameter to $10.172 billion (2018) and 'Total equity' parameter to 4.817 billion.

2. Please change the lead paragraph from: PulteGroup, Inc. is a home construction company based in Atlanta, Georgia, United States. In 2016, the company was the 3rd largest home construction company in the United States, based on the number of homes closed. The company is ranked 341st on the Fortune 500 as of 2018. The company operates in 49 markets in 25 states. to read as: PulteGroup, Inc. (earlier known as Pulte Homes) is a home construction company based in Atlanta, Georgia, United States. In 2018, the company was the 3rd largest home construction company in the United States, based on the number of homes closed. The company is ranked 341st on the Fortune 500 as of 2018. The company currently operates in 44 markets in 23 states.

3. Please add the following paragraph after the first paragraph in the lead section

PulteGroup operates under the brand names of Pulte Homes, Del Webb, Centex Homes, DiVosta Communities, John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods, and American West. PulteGroup also provides home financing and protection services through PulteMortgage, PGPTitle and PulteInsurance Agency. Initially founded by Bill Pulte in Michigan, the company moved its headquarters to Atlanta, Georgia in 2014. Since 2016, Ryan Marshall has been the President and CEO of the company.

4. Please change the section name from 'History' to 'Acquisitions'

5. Please change the current 'History' section from:

In 1950, when he was 18 years old, Bill Pulte began building and selling houses. In 1956, the company was formed. It was based in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. In 1972, the company became a public company via an initial public offering. In 1998, the company acquired Divosta for an estimated $150 million. The company also acquired Radnor Homes. In 2001, the company acquired the Del E. Webb Construction Company, founded by Del Webb, for $1.8 billion. In 2003, the company acquired Sivage-Thomas Homes. In 2009, the company acquired Centex for $1.3 billion in stock. In May 2013, the company moved its headquarters to Atlanta. In August 2014, the company acquired the real estate assets of Dominion Homes for $82 million. In January 2016, the company acquired certain assets of John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods for $430.5 million in cash. In September 2016, Ryan Marshall was appointed CEO, replacing Richard Dugas Jr., who was retiring.

to read as:


 * In 1998, the company acquired Divosta for an estimated $150 million. The company also acquired Radnor Homes.
 * In 2001, the company acquired the Del E. Webb Construction Company, founded by Del Webb, for $1.8 billion.
 * In 2003, the company acquired Sivage-Thomas Homes.
 * In 2009, the company acquired Centex for $1.3 billion in stock.
 * In August 2014, the company acquired the real estate assets of Dominion Homes for $82 million.
 * In January 2016, the company acquired certain assets of John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods for $430.5 million in cash.
 * In April 2019, the company acquired the home building operations of American West Homes for an estimated $150 million.

6. Please add a section on 'Awards' with the following information:
 * 2004 - J.D Power’s 2004 Inaugural Platinum Award for customer satisfaction among America’s largest home building companies
 * 2010 - Fortunes Most Admired Companies - Pulte & Centex
 * 2016 - 9th Annual Shorty Awards Best in Real Estate (social) Winner
 * 2018 - HIVE 50 Honorees under the Strategy: Business models category

7. Please change the section name from 'Critisicm' to 'Controversies'

8. Please re-arrange the current 'Criticism' section in chronological order and add new information to the section to read as:

In May 2007, during a protest at a Pulte Homes construction site, it was claimed that an employee used a water truck owned by the company to spray water at a group of workers picketing outside a home with a high pressure water hose. On June 20, 2007, a video of the incident was posted on YouTube. It was not confirmed that the individual in question was a PulteGroup employee.

On March 26, 2009, Building Justice, a project of the International Union of Painters and the Sheet Metal Workers International Association, with support from the AFL-CIO, released the report of a survey of 872 Pulte and Del Webb home owners in Arizona, Nevada, and California in which 63% of respondents reported construction defects in their homes.

In February of 2010, a district court in northern California dismissed a class action lawsuit filed against various PulteGroup subsidiaries with the accusation that the firm’s lending practices attributed to the 2007 market collapse.

In December 2018, Pulte Homes was accused of violations of Florida’s Unfair and Deceptive Trade Practices Act. The company settled with the Florida Attorney General office and agreed to repair homes that were up to 10 years old and meet [sic] the criteria outlined in the consent decree. In addition, the company provided over $78.7 million in homeowner relief.

9. Please add a section on 'Corporate causes' with the following information:

In 2013, PulteGroup founded Built to Honor, a program that provides mortgage-free new homes to military veterans and their families. Built to Honor has partnered with organizations such as Operation Homefront and Operation Finally Home to provide homes.

Explanation of the changes: Overall I am suggesting to update figures in the infobox as per 2018 financial results, updating other information with latest numbers, adding new information and suggesting more appropriate names to the sections.

References supporting change: All URLs are added in the text mentioned above. Thank you so much.

PANGIfroth (talk) 13:31, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Reply 26-JUL-2019
Regards, Spintendo  14:28, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Please note that the numbers below correspond to the numbers in the request.
 * 1) ✅ The infobox parameters were changed.
 * 2) ✅ The Lead section was updated.
 * 3) ❌ This paragraph was not added because the items listed within it were not WikiLinked.
 * 4) ❌ The History section was not renamed.
 * 5) ❌ The items in the History section which were asked to be moved to the paragraph following the lead section were not done so because that paragraph was not approved. (See #3.) No other items in the History section were asked to be changed.
 * 6) ❌ The awards section was not added.
 * 7) ❌ The Criticism section was not renamed. Per WP:CSECTION these types of sections ought to be incorporated into the main body of text.
 * 8) ❌ The requested information to be added to the Criticism section was not added because a key claim was not referenced. Other claims in this section were either added or not added based on different reasons.
 * 9) ❌ The Corporate Causes section was not added per WP:NOBLECAUSE.

Proposed changes/Response per previous edit request
Information be to added:

1. Please add the following paragraph after the first paragraph in the lead section

PulteGroup operates under the brand names of Pulte Homes, Del Webb, Centex Homes, DiVosta Communities, John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods, and American West. PulteGroup also provides home financing and protection services through PulteMortgage, PGPTitle and PulteInsurance Agency. Initially founded by Bill Pulte in Michigan, the company moved its headquarters to Atlanta, Georgia in 2014. Since 2016, Ryan Marshall has been the President and CEO of the company.

2. Please change the 'History' section from


 * In 1950, when he was 18 years old, Bill Pulte began building and selling houses. In 1956, the company was formed. It was based in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.
 * In 1972, the company became a public company via an initial public offering.
 * In 1998, the company acquired Divosta for an estimated $150 million. The company also acquired Radnor Homes.
 * In 2001, the company acquired the Del E. Webb Construction Company, founded by Del Webb, for $1.8 billion.
 * In 2003, the company acquired Sivage-Thomas Homes.
 * In 2009, the company acquired Centex for $1.3 billion in stock.
 * In May 2013, the company moved its headquarters to Atlanta.
 * In August 2014, the company acquired the real estate assets of Dominion Homes for $82 million.
 * In January 2016, the company acquired certain assets of John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods for $430.5 million in cash.
 * In September 2016, Ryan Marshall was appointed CEO, replacing Richard Dugas Jr., who was retiring.

to read as:

In 1998, PulteGroup acquired Divosta for an estimated $150 million. The company also acquired Radnor Homes. In 2001, the company acquired the Del E. Webb Construction Company, founded by Del Webb, for $1.8 billion. In 2003, the company acquired Sivage-Thomas Homes. In 2009, Pulte Group acquired Centex for $1.3 billion in stock. In August 2014, the company acquired the real estate assets of Dominion Homes for $82 million. In January 2016, the company acquired certain assets of John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods for $430.5 million in cash. In April 2019, the company acquired the home building operations of American West Homes for an estimated $150 million.

3. Please add a section on 'Awards' with the following information:

In 2016, PulteGroup won the 9th Annual Shorty Awards for Best in Real Estate (social) category.

4. Please add the following to the 'Criticism' section:

In December 2018, Pulte Homes was accused of violating Florida’s Unfair and Deceptive Trade Practices Act by not giving disclosures to homebuyers and denying warranty coverage. The complaint was settled with the Florida Attorney General office, as Pulte agreed to repair homes that were upto 10 years old and also provided over $78.7 million in homeowner relief.

Explanation: I have submitted new drafts for pages of Centex Homes, Pulte Homes, Del Webb and John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods. If they get approved, I will be able to Wikilink them too. I would appreciate if you could please look into them. I have also provided a prose form for the 'History' section. Regarding the awards, Shorty Awards does have a Wikipedia page and hence is notable, so if you can please include it. For the 'Criticism' section, I have edited the claim with the grammatical error.

PANGIfroth (talk) 21:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Reply 27-JUL-2019

 * 1) ❌ The listing of brand names was not done for previously specified reasons.
 * 2) ✅ The History section was updated.
 * 3) ✅ The award was added to the History section.
 * 4) ❌ The requested text was not added to the Criticism section because the statement ... and also provided over $78.7 million in homeowner relief. is not clear in what is meant by "homeowner relief".

Regards, Spintendo  23:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The lead section claim regarding Forbes was moved to the History section.
 * 2) A clade was added to the Milestones subsection.

net income mistake?
In the box at the top of the page, net income is listed as: Net income Increase $100.463 billion (2018)

I seriously doubt they have $100b in net income in 2018. NASDAQ lists NI as just over $1b.https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/phm/financials

NOTE: I don't normally leave comments on wikipedia, so I apologize if I did it wrong. If someone wants to move this or edit it, it's fine by me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirin-rex (talk • contribs) 02:04, 11 March 2020 (UTC)