Talk:Rajah Humabon

"Conversion" to Christianity
After reading some chapters of the english translation of Pigafettas account (see here), I have some doubts if you can call it a conversion, in today understanding of the term, what Magellan did there. Rajah Humabon seemed to be threatened to do whatever Magellan liked:

''On approaching the principal town [Cebu] the captain general commanded all his ships to hang on their flags. Then we lowered the sails in the fashion in which they are struck when going to fight, and he had all the artillery fired, at which the people of this place were greatly frightened.'' (p.84)

The interpreter [...] declared to him, that he was the King of Spain and Emperor of all Christendom, wherefore, if he would not be his friend and treat his subjects well, he would at another time send against him so many men as to destroy him. (p. 85-86)

So Magellan tried a forced conversion, but even there he didn't succeed, because, thanks to Lapu-Lapu, Humabon wasn't forced for long enough into repetition of Magellans believe to actually believe anything himself. Thus after Magellans death he right away attacked the remaining Spaniards.

Of cause most contemporary Europeans of the time called this a conversion, but the article shouldn't hush over those facts that reveal, that in todays understand this is nothing the like. -- Käptn Weltall (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Nag palaganap ng kristiyanismo sa mga katutubong pilipino 2001:4453:673:3F00:20ED:8267:B89D:4D13 (talk) 04:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * English translation as : Christianity spread among the native Filipinos . Wisdood (talk) 09:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Rajah Humabon's date of death?
He could have not died on April 27 1521 if he orchestrated the May 1 massacre.January Bacus (talk) 10:21, 4 May 2022 (UTC) https://en.wikipilipinas.org/view/May_1_Massacre