Talk:Red-necked grebe

first cut at revised WP:LEDE
...revised/reorganized the WP:LEDE. This resulted in four paragraphs, which i believe is a mechanical violation of WP:MOS. I... think MOS is subject to WP:IAR, but am open to improvements on new lede. Ling.Nut (WP:3IAR) 06:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Wintering bird sand oil spills: speculation.
This was just removed
 * Wintering birds could be affected by future oil spills at sea, although during this season the species is widely scattered along coasts, so the effects of oil spills are likely to be small.


 * Ok, it is speculation, but is the speculation part of the paper? Or is it speculation by the wikiwriter?
 * speculation by the writer would be WP:OR - it's sourced -Jim


 * 1) I think that 'this season' in the article refers to 'the winter' rather than 'this year'.
 * Can't find this - Jim


 * The whole of the last paragraph is a taken directly from the BirdLife fact sheet.
 * "Threats In North America the species is threatened by pollutants such as polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) and other pesticides1 (e.g. DDT)4 which cause reduced reproductive success due to egg sterility and eggshell thinning1, 4. The species is also threatened by the modification and degradation of lakes and by human disturbance from water-based recreational activities1. It may also be threatened by future oil spills at sea during the winter (although during this season the species is widely scattered along coasts, so the effects of oil spills are likely to be small)1." (copyright violation?) Grantus4504 (talk) 19:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've attributed it, please reword if you are still not happy. - Jim

Comments
survival figures will be more useful if the age of the bird is indicated, in August might work in some location where there is a clear start of breeding season-what is it in this case? (essentially "... still alive 3 months after hatching" or something like that would be more useful) Shyamal (talk) 02:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "On average, for each adult, 0.65 young birds are still alive in August, although the mortality rate for the adult is unknown."
 * Agreed, done -Jim

I suspect that "range" is usually used to indicate geographic distribution, but here it is being used to indicate habitat characteristics. Shyamal (talk) 14:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "Its wintering range is largely restricted to calm waters just beyond the waves around ocean coasts"
 * Yes, changed - Jim

Range map
Colours on map do not appear to follow WP:Birds guidelines. What is the preferred colours for the ranges? Should there be an all year round range? Snowman (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't realise there were guidelines; does it occur all year round anywhere?
 * WikiProject_Birds Yellow - summer, blue - winter, Green (=Yellow+blue) - all year. Shyamal (talk) 06:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'll do that next time. It's not an FAC requirement to have a map, nor is the WP:BIRDS guideline binding with regard to MoS. I'd redo it if I had more time, but too busy at present. jimfbleak (talk) 06:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The map appears to be distorted with a different scale on the North-South axis and East-West axis. Snowman (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed to standard (WP:Bird) colours. Snowman (talk) 10:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
Apologies for late responses to the above, I've been concentrating on the FAC comment, overlooked these. jimfbleak (talk) 05:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

This page
Does anyone see.... you know... anything wrong with it? Brightgalrs ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 08:27, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Err, like what? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:17, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I blame adware. Brightgalrs ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 18:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, you've lost me...Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

distribution map
Great article but ... Why does the map show the whole of the north sea as a winter ground? why not just the relevant coastlines? There's nothing out there except salt water. (same question applies to Korea, Japan et al) Chienlit (talk) 10:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

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