Talk:Reigate St Mary's School

This is the Talk page for the Wikipedia article on Reigate St Mary's School. Please use it for any discussion of the article. DAHall (talk) 03:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal to delete this article
Please see the article Articles for deletion/Reigate St Mary's School and give your opinion. DAHall (talk) 03:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of all external links
At this edit, all external links were removed, and one to the school’s web site was added which is already in the Infobox. The edit summary was "rm inappropriate ELs as per WP:EL". But please see WikiProject Schools/Article advice, which says this under Other sections:
 * External links – Give a link to the website of the school, preferably one in the English language. Include other informational links that might interest readers, but whose contents might be beyond the scope of inclusion in the article (for example, links to the school's Parent Teacher Association). For understanding of adding external links to the school article(s), see guidelines of adding external links.

The way forward is to check each of the removed external links against the above guidance and to reinstate the ones which seem to comply with this policy. , do you have any comment? Moonraker (talk) 21:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That advice is just an essay. What applies are WP:ELMAYBE and WP:ELNO which are part of the guideline WP:EL. Most of the deleted links are already used as refs anyhow, which is as it should be. Fob.schools (talk) 06:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

, your edit summary was "rm inappropriate ELs as per WP:EL". That can only refer to the list of Links normally to be avoided in WP:ELMAYBE, with nineteen points listed. They do not include being cited in the article, but (10) refers to Facebook, so we can agree on that. Here are the other links you removed, for each of them would you please state which point you say applies. Moonraker (talk) 13:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * External links
 * Reigate St Mary's School at goodschoolsguide.co.uk
 * Reigate St Mary's Preparatory School at Independent Schools Inspectorate
 * Reigate St Mary's Preparatory and Choir School at Independent Schools Council
 * Reigate St Mary's review at muddystilettos.co.uk
 * An insight into Reigate St Mary's at YouTube
 * They are all already available as references as far as I can see. The YouTube is just a self promoting puffpiece which fail WP:NPOV. You're not getting paid for this are you? Fob.schools (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , if you will take a gentle tip from me, you will cut back on that kind of accusation. Believe me, it loses arguments. And I am indeed not getting paid. Getting back on topic, without the numbered points which apply to those links, I can see no objection to putting them back. WP:NPOV refers to content, not external links, which are not part of the article. Moonraker (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What kind of accusation? That it’s a puff piece? Of course it is. What world are you living in? Every self produced video is a puff piece. That’s why they are self produced and not the subject of a third party produced insight into the subject. It’s not normal to link to such videos. Fob.schools (talk) 03:51, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And BTW, there is no need to ping me every time you want attention. I have all the necessary pages on my watchlist and will see any relevant edits. So please do not ping me too. Thanks. Fob.schools (talk) 03:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been through every school article in the Schools in Surrey template and not one of them links to a school YouTube video. If you can find an instance, I'd be delighted to see it. Fob.schools (talk) 09:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)