Talk:Richard Sharpe Shaver

Citations and references
I've added some citations and references to this article, beginning with Forrest J Ackerman's World of Science Fiction and recasting the Wright article as a proper reference instead of an external link. (Incidentally, Wright was formerly referred to as "Laner" [sic] in the article, but according to the Library of Congress database, his name is "Wright, Bruce Lanier".) Since much of this article seems to be based on Wright's essay, this is just a start. I've also not done anything about the requested citations. (I really only found my way to this article when adding the Ackerman citation to Amazing Stories, and wasn't planning on another full article fix-up.) However, for those who aren't familiar with the new Footnotes system, the citations I've added should help with the markup, and the Cite book, Cite web), and other relevant templates have usage notes on their talk pages. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

This article is in serious need of further detail on Shaver's writings. It's a little jarring how "Teros" (the benevolent counterpart to the Deros, I think) are suddenly mentioned with no explication.

off topic
I know, I know. I know. The discussion pages are not here for general discussion. But I can't help it. Reading this, I think it would make for a fantastic movie. A biopic. About Shaver. Maybe similar to "Ed Wood" or "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind." or "The Assassination of Richard Nixon." This guy's story could be done in an amazing way. 50's era period piece, going right up into the 70s, with sci-fi elements, show his stories as thought they are real at least to him, make it a quirky story about a quirky man's delusions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

That's A Good Idea!
That's A Good Idea! Michael (talk) 03:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

John Lithgow as Shaver, Johnny Depp as Palmer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.3.167 (talk) 05:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hellevator: The Bottled Fools
There was a movie made called Hellevator: The Bottled fools, that deals specifically with the Hollow Earth Theory and the stories about the Elevators that would go under Paris:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0422370/

I think it should be mentioned here as a cultural reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Violet yoshi (talk • contribs) 06:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Richard Shaver as an author of fiction
There doesn't appear to be any mention of this. I have the July 1952 edition of Raymond Palmer's Other Worlds magazine, it contain the story The Sun-Smiths by Richard Shaver.

The introduction:

"When something goes wrong with a Sun, it is duty of the Spayderines to set it aright. Earth's sun had gone wrong ages ago, and its human birthright stolen from it by degenerates."

The magazine has a short bio of Shaver inside the back cover, where it says:

"'... Then, in 1951 he began a comeback, this time striving to turn out the sort of story that would stand on its own merits, rather than any possibility of its basic truths. He determined to sell other editors, to prove he was a writer, and not a favorite. His sucess is apparent. ...'"

I don't know how this magazine fits into his life story, but that's what I read in it. If anybody is interested I will examine it more closely. [I have signed up to this Talk Page's feed.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.147.159 (talk) 07:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Derro
This sentence and the attached criticism were in the section Shaver in Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror:
 * In the Dungeons & Dragons role playing game, derroes are dwarf-like creatures living in underground cities.

A Google searching for derro D&D Shaver turned up this item, evidently posted by Gygax's son, that seems to deny the connection. (The drow are another D&D race of underground-dwellers, much more popular and successful
 * Re: AD&D Drow inspired by Richard Sharpe Shaver's "Dero"? As far as I know the drow (rhymes with sow) were created by my Dad and inspired by myth, legend and other reading. I don't think that Shaver had any influence- but I never asked him that question directly. I think there were even guys in Tsojcanth called Dero- or something close to that, right?

Between this and the lack of any positive evidence adduced in the past three years, I'm deleting that sentence. -- Thnidu (talk) 02:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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Unit conversion in the "other influences" section
A minor quibble with the "other influences" section. It states that "The Deros...are huge, 6 foot (2.8 meters) tall." 6 feet does not equal 2.8 meters, and is not generally considered "huge." This is probably meant to read "9 foot," rather than 6, since 2.8 meters is somewhat greater than 9 feet, and could be considered huge. But I'm not going to go editing it, because I don't have the original source. The alternative would be 6 feet = 1.8 meters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:8480:3343:7981:8361:F4D4:A7B1 (talk) 04:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Biography
In the biography section, it says "Shaver's whereabouts and actions cannot be reliably traced until the early 1940s". Richard Toronto's book War over Lemuria states that from 1938 or 39 to 1943 he was in the Ionia State Hospital for the Criminally Insane, patient 3234. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.215.1 (talk) 14:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Too many cover examples
This article contains 13(!) images of pulp magazine covers referencing the Shaver Mystery and related topics, which seems like an absolute overkill, and also absolutely breaks the formatting of the piece when viewing on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Murasame Laboratory Reject (talk) 06:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ thanks for the feedback, those images have now been put into a gallery at the bottom of the page.  Feoffer (talk) 06:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)