Talk:Road surface marking

Reference to U.S. Standards
I added reference and links to U.S. standards. I'd love to see other standards treated likewise and perhaps a separate section listing them all. MARussellPESE 17:15, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

This article needs to be deleted or merged out of existence
Yo---it looks like we need to delete or merge this mess. We already have excellent articles (all of which were partially researched and written by moi) on Lane, Cat's eye (road), and Raised pavement marker. The reason we cannot have a single article for Pavement marker (roads) is that all English language dialects outside of North America interpret "pavement" to mean what North Americans call a "sidewalk." This was the cause of much controversy in the Cat's eye article (please review the HUGE debate on that article's talk page) and the eventual reason for why it was split up into the two articles that exist now.

Also, the correct term is Botts' dot, not Bot dot, as indicated by all of the articles I have cited in the Raised pavement marker article. --Coolcaesar 01:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I just did a search on "road marker" and this article (Pavement marker (roads)) shot to the top. I had to dig through Lane to find the Road marking article, which is far superior. I see now that this article (Pavement marker (roads)) is redundant and should go. MARussellPESE 13:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Centre white line
This article says that the idea was pioneered in California. However, I have a source that claims the first white line was painted in Sutton Coldfield, England in 1921.

Source: The Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield - A Commemorative History, Douglas V. Jones, 1994, Westwood Press (ISBN 0-9502636-7-2)

Seeing as this article has no reference to the claims, then wouldn't this be more appropriate? Or should it be outlined that the claim to who pioneered the central white line is contested? - Erebus555 12:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you have a reference, I'd list that. Do use the Cite book for the inline cite.  A referenced cite has standing.  If you can't find a cite for the current one, it may not be correct.  If someone later finds a source to support the previous claim then it can be listed as the first and yours as the first in Europe,  Vegaswikian 18:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I fail to see how the claim for whose painted line came first can be "contested." The earliest date given is Hines' in 1911. Whether McCarroll read about Hines' use of the concept on Michigan, or came up with it herself, the simple fact remains that 1911 came before 1917. When I get a minute, I'd like to sit down and try to rewrite this, with appropriate documantation for Hines' claim, of course, giving McCarroll due credit for being the first to get it done in California. Dr-t 14:07, 16 December 2012

Pedestrian Crossings in UK
The article currently says that zig-zag markings identify pedestrian crossings but that pedestrians are prohibited from crossing there. Is this a typo or does it just need to be explained better? Strandist 17:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Reference added (or see the picture on the right) TiffaF 11:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Shark's teeth
The article Sharks teeth (Road Surface Marking) indicates only that such markings exist. It would be nice to know (either here or there) what they look like and what they are used for. Thanks to anyone who can add this information. Tim Ross  (talk)  12:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Road marking machine
Seems that there is no reason two articles on nearly the same subject.  Admr Boltz  18:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the article is about the general topic. Adding the machines, which come in many forms, to the article would appear to over complicate it and add too much extra text.  Vegaswikian (talk) 19:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The machine article seems like an add. If you look at the creators contributions and specifically their contributions to commons, they are adding a lot of image from a chinese manufacturer and claiming "own work" on those images so it seems like a COI that could be easily averted by a merge. CombatWombat42 (talk) 21:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with merge proposal; much of the machine article is actually about the process of road surface marking, so there is a lot of overlap/duplication. Klbrain (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Yield line
This is just a specialized road surface marking.  Admr Boltz  18:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Removing request --  Admr Boltz  18:15, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Road re-striping
Cover the same topic, though the re-striping one has bad grammar and seems to be advertising something. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 03:23, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done. It looks like that was one of many attempts to advertise for specific machine manufacturers.  Imzadi 1979  →   04:04, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Removed undecipherable and unreferenced section.
I found this just above the preformed thermoplastic section, see edit history. If you want to fix this, please add references and translate it into proper English.

Pedestrian cross striping
Striping machine Pedestrian cross striping machine is special equipment professionally used for painting zebra lines on the intersections or other busy road sections. Because of the characteristics of zebra cross, parallel stripes not long, the striping machine is often small hand-guide road marking machine, convenient to turn direction. The widths of stripe are 350mm, 400mm, 450mm, 500mm and 600mm. There is discrepancy between the engineer regulations in different countries. The marking shoe of pedestrian cross striping machine, which determines marking lines’ width, is much wider than other pavement marking machines. Some simple marking shoe with wheels is also applied to deal the road striping.

Painting construction The section of road should be swept clean and kept dry. Pull a guiding line straight and fix the two ends on the ground. Then spray or brush a primer layer on the asphalt or concrete surface. The powder state thermoplastic paint needs melt into molten state for painting. Pull or push the striping machine with the guide rod along the guiding line to keep the zebra stripes straight and beautiful. Generally, the hand-push road striper is backward coating and the self-propelled type is forward coating to conform the body force exert habit. EthanL (talk) 16:02, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Where is the mnemonic association?
"Yellow was adopted because it was already the standard color of warning signs, and because it was easy to teach drivers to associate yellow lines with dividing opposing traffic and white lines with dividing traffic in the same direction. In turn, this simple mnemonic device greatly reduced head-on collisions and improved road traffic safety"

Is it that yellow = danger/warning & crossing yellow lines is more dangerous? Is it yellow = opposite traffic & white = same direction traffic?

It certainly doesn't seem like a helpful mnemonic, like ROY G VIB. Ileanadu (talk) 17:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposing to rewrite entire article in American English because it was originally drafted in American English
Someone rewrote the article a few years ago into British English in violation of Wikipedia policy. For articles on subjects that are not inherently specific to a particular dialect, we normally keep the article in the dialect in which it was originally drafted. I am proposing to rewrite this mess back into American English. --Coolcaesar (talk) 22:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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Highway shields painted directly onto the road
At geo:37.6311260,-122.4360871 one can see highway shields painted directly onto the expressway surface. The article could perhaps mention cases like these. Jidanni (talk) 09:04, 13 January 2023 (UTC)