Talk:Robert Catesby

Clean Up
I've tidied things up a bit and added in subheadings. The article is very light on details about the gunpowder plot itself? surely this should be the main focus of the article. If anyone has any info please add. I also notice the lack of citations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robkirby007 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The link to William Catesby is not to Robert's father. I'm not sure how to do the disambiguation here, can anybody fix it? Eixo 01:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Quite right - deleted link.

How were the two famous Catesbys actually related? Jackiespeel (talk) 19:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Date of death
I'm confused - the text states he died three days after the discovery of the plot, surely this was November 5th, therefore he died November 18th....................

Question about Henry Morgan
The link to Henry Morgan does not appear to be right. The Admiral Morgan linked does not appear to be the same fellow who died with Catesby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.200.223 (talk) 03:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Henry Morgan
He was a Catholic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.141.83 (talk) 14:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Is clearly a different one then the privateer so i removed the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.169.251.74 (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Lead too brief
The lead is too brief and I think Guy Fawkes needs to be mentioned in the lead as well. His place of birth does not need to be in the lead but I think a mention of Parliament and King James should be there.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The article will probably look very different in a week's time. I tend to write lead sections only once the body has been sorted out. Parrot of Doom 13:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually that's an excellent idea. That way you highlight the key parts after they've already been placed in the main body of the article. It's a pity there is so little info on him compared to Guy, his more colourful co-conspirator.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Everard Digby is the one that I find interesting, it seems he had a great deal of public sympathy at the time. Parrot of Doom 13:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you know if he was related to Jane Digby?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't, sorry, but if I find he was I'll let you know. Parrot of Doom 15:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I created an article on Mabel Digby, who was related by birth and marriage to the Irish FitzGerald dynasty. The Digbys have been quite notable throughout English history.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Robert Catesby
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Robert Catesby's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ODNB Thomas Wintour": From Guy Fawkes:  From Gunpowder Plot:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 19:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Uncited
Removed from the article and placed here: Parrot of Doom 20:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

As a man, Robert Catesby, in spite of his religious inclinations, was rich in friends and patrimony, loved and esteemed not only by Catholics but by Protestants for his many unusual qualities both physical and mental, and was part of the glamorous circle that surrounded the court, although in his youth he "was very wild, and ...he spent much above his rate".

However, although this shows that he may have compromised at certain times, it is indisputable that he always remained active in the Catholic cause. As early as 1594, the year after his marriage, he was sheltering Father Henry Garnet and other priests at his house, Morecrofts in Uxbridge at considerable risk. It was to here that Father John Gerard fled for sanctuary after his dramatic escape from the Tower of London in 1597, and where Father Persons' mother was living in 1598, which indicates that Catesby was at all times a highly trusted member of the Catholic community.

recent changes
Before I'm forced to delve into my books to check for mistakes, is there any merit to these changes? Parrot of Doom 18:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't check all of the date changes before I reverted, but certainly the Earl of Essex's rebellion didn't take place in 1602, so no reason to suppose any of the other changes were any more accurate. Malleus Fatuorum 18:04, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


 * And a lazy check of the ONDB agrees with this article's claim for Catesby's birthdate. Unless the IP who made the changes comes here, I'll not bother checking.  I've too much to do.  In case you're wondering, I've had a mad busy summer of work so haven't done much here.  I still want to do something on the practice of burning heretics and traitors, but haven't come across the right source material. Parrot of Doom 18:08, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Dubious tag
I tagged "Catesby and Percy were reportedly both dropped by a single lucky shot, while standing near the door." as dubious for obvious reasons; impossible to ascertain after four centuries and local lore (hence "reportedly") is inherently questionable. Quis separabit? 17:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That's why "reportedly" is used - because that is what was reported. Much of what is written about the Plot is supposition, including the details of who met who and where and why.  We only have the survivors' accounts to rely on, and even they aren't particularly reliable. Parrot of Doom 18:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Meddlesome priests
Anyone have a problem with the sentence "James exiled all Jesuits and other Catholic priests, and reimposed the collection of fines for recusancy"? It's been in the article a while, and it's in other articles too, so I assume it's fine. A shorter version will be in the TFA on the 5th. - Dank (push to talk) 19:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Notable relatives?
Calling out Kit Harington as a notable relative seems a bit weird for someone who likely has over 100,000 living collateral descendant; chances are he has descendants more notable than Harington. It may be better to title the section "Fictional portrayals" unless we have strong reason to believe there are not notable direct descendants, nor more notable collateral descendants. PoisonedPigeon (talk) 10:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)