Talk:Rocketplane Kistler

Copyright
I reverted this article to remove a large amount of text that was taken verbatim from

 

where it is claimed to be copyright 2004-2007 Rocket Plane Limited, Inc. Pretzelpaws 18:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Merge Kistler Aerospace
Rocketplane Kistler is the current incarnation of this entity. The (stub) Kistler Aerospace article should be merged here, leaving only a redirect to this page. (sdsds - talk) 08:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Wasn't Kistler Aerospace acquired by Rocketplane Limited, Inc.? If that's the case, then Kistler should probably be merged there. Honestly, Rocketplane Kistler could probably be merged there as well - until more details emerge as spacecraft development (hopefully) continues. I'm hesitant to bloat the Rocketplane Limited article too much, and there would be some redundancies - but it might work well if done properly. ZZ Claims~ Evidence 12:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I agree with sdsds's proposal. Kistler Aerospace was bought by Rocketplane Limited, but was not assimilated. KA continues to operate as before, but under the name Rocketplane Kistler. So KA should be merged into RK. — Jack · talk · 05:32, Sunday, 2 September 2007
 * I went ahead with the merge, since it was only a stub — Jack · talk · 00:23, Monday, 3 September 2007


 * Looks good -- thanks! (sdsds - talk) 00:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Is or was?
There are a lot of uses of "was", without any indication that the company has gone under. ~ MD Otley (talk) 05:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009 Update
There is a Jeff Foust interview of Chuck Lauer of Rocketplane Global / Rocketplane Kistler that was filmed earlier this month at the Space Access '09 conference, here:. At 5:00 minutes into the interview he gives an update on "Rocketplane Kistler, the orbital side" of the Rocketplane xyz business. "Rocketplane Global" is focusing on the suborbital part of the business, the 6-passenger rocketplane design that they solidified in 2007; RG is still working the financing to pursue building the spacecraft (covered earlier in the interview). And here is another link to recent RK info. I'll leave it to other enterprising editors to update the article, which is, as of now, rather dated. N2e (talk) 16:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

August 2009 Update
Here is more recent news info on Rocketplane. http://www.personalspaceflight.info/2009/07/31/rocketplanes-woes/ Looks like they may not even be based in Oklahoma at all any longer, which makes the article lede incorrect. N2e (talk) 04:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Since someone just removed the dubious info tag on the Oklahoma City location, and noone has yet offered a well-cited secondary source on this, I will likely revert and use this news piece to cite the change.  N2e (talk) 23:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Just updated the Retrenchment section of the article with an Oklahoma-centric news article that claims (again) that the company is financially broke. The article probably needs a revised lede now to better reflect this. N2e (talk) 02:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

April 2010 status
This reference in NewSpace Journal on April 11th indicates Rocketplane Global (redlinked non-existent WP article as of 2010-04-13) may be making a Florida play, or at least, has made some public announcements to that effect. Of course it remains to be seen what will come of these words as Rocketplane had formerly gotten quite a few whipped up about their Oklahoma announcements. I think a couple of things are implicated for Wikipedia coverage of this company:

1), Wikipedia has articles on Rocketplane Limited, Inc. (officially defunct) and Rocketplane Kistler (hard to tell if still a going concern or not) &mdash; but it has no article on Rocketplane Global, the only Rocketplane business entity that is doing anything of note in NewSpace recently

2) This is two April's in a row now where Lauer has been making announcements about the Rocketplane Global entity at the annual SpaceAccess conference. N2e (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

June 2010 Bankruptcy
Rocketplane, which received $18 million in Oklahoma tax credits, filed for bankruptcy last month - OKG Scene.com, via SpaceToday from the Oklahoma Gazette. That's from Clark Lindsey at RLV and Space News, July 7, 2010.

Clearly, this article needs an update to reflect the new reality. N2e (talk) 04:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * A rather detailed article is in NewSpace Journal here. It addresses the complete Chapter 7 (liquidation) bankruptcy of all three Rocketplane entities:  the parent corporation, Rocketplane, and its' two subsidiaries Rocketplane Kistler, and Rocketplane Global. N2e (talk) 02:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Gonna update the article based on the news of the chapter 7 filing so we can finally close this chapter in space history. Stick a fork in 'er, Johnny, She's done! PistolPete037 (talk) 08:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks PP037! That needed to be done.  I made a minor change to the citation syntax on one of your sources, in order to clean up an extraneous number in the References section on that source.  If you agree with the change, you might want to slightly fix your other source as well, which has the same problem.  Cheers.  N2e (talk) 20:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

December 2010
Media article published in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin Journal-Sentinel newspaper: Financial meltdown scuttles dreams of Green Bay's rocket man, 2010-12-11, accessed 2010-12-13. It is a major in-depth piece, focused on the founder, and will no doubt prove useful as a source for the article. N2e (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)