Talk:Ronald Smelser

Links

 * Gray Zones: Ambiguity and Compromise in the Holocaust and its Aftermath
 * Marching into darkness
 * Sudeten Germans

Query regarding notability
Is this person notable per WP:NACADEMIC? Perhaps someone could point to which of the criteria they meet? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:47, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, why does he have to? Coolabahapple (talk) 14:51, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Because we don't have articles on just anyone. We have notability criteria to decide who we have an article on, and NACADEMIC is the one we use for academics. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 20:49, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * but he meets WP:AUTHOR and WP:GNG so whether or not he meets another sng is a moot point. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:01, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * On what basis does he meet AUTHOR? Virtually everything about him relates to one book, so I'm not sure he himself meets the significant coverage in reliable sources part of GNG. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * which is covered by point 3 of author("The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work."), reviews of other of his works are also available online including The Nazi Elite, and Lessons and Legacies volV The Holocaust and Justice (www.ejil.org/pdfs/15/5/386.pdf). Coolabahapple (talk) 06:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * But is that book a significant or well-known work? I'm not seeing the coverage of the man himself for GNG, so we're relying on a SNG here. I just want to be clear what the claim of notability is actually based on. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:30, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * common outcomes notes that "Published authors are kept as notable if they have received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work, or if their work is likely to be very widely read." and WorldCat shows The Myth as being held in around 400 libraries which is pretty good for this type of work; you can always test it at afd and see what happens. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:27, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Academics are notable for their academic work, not for their personal lives., just as painters for their paintings, or politicians for their political roles. People who are interested in them want to know what they  did; their personalities are secondary in most cases (cf. WP:EINSTEIN)  You're confusing them with pop stars, who are known as much for their personal lives as for what the pretend to perform. or society celebrities, who are known only for their personal lives.  DGG ( talk ) 04:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're paying attention. I'm making reference to the SNG for academics. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:40, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

"good article"
Not only is this article being listed as good a complete joke but I am 90% sure this coffman character is either smelser or related in some way to him

What a guy
This man now appears in half of the nazi related articles on wikipedia, thanks to the excellent k.e.coffman, he's almost a christ like figure. How is it I never heard of him, he should be the most celebrated historian alive — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scznc (talk • contribs) 05:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)