Talk:Roy Keane

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Roy Keane has in fact been sacked by Ipswich, he hasn't just "left". The wiki could be misread that he has left of his own accord, I suggest you change it.

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Is Roy keane of Man Utd related to Robbie Keane of Spurs?

Nope 134.226.112.12 17:01, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes they are cousins. It was mentioned heavily during the '02 world cup in Japan which saw the "big-split" from the rest of the Irsih Team. RuSTy 01:47 1/6/06.

I was sure they were brothers. I heard something about their Dad dying a few seasons ago

Brothers???? No way! Roy is from Cork and Robbie from Tallaght. Roy does have a brother who used to (still?) play for Cobh Ramblers (a semi pro outfit). I really doubt that there is even a distant relative link between Roy & Robbie. I would be very suprised if there was...Downunda 21:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

No way, no relation whatsoever, I heard Roy Keane had a brother Tommy Keane, well as far as I remember, who played soccer in England? He had an injury and retired. I think Robbie Keane was emerging as a famous player at the same time. Would need to be checked first. Frainc 02:14 18 sept 2006

if anyone would like to look at the robbie keane trivia section??theres thousands upon thousands of Keane's in Ireland, It's simply a co-incidence, hence the ironic chant "there's only one Keano"Plokt

Dog? Seriously?
I really think the 'Dog' section of this page is ridiculous. Some details from it are interesting and significant, although it is not concise at all, and some information is just silly. It reads as though from a fan page on Roy Keane rather than from an encyclopaedia. I will change myself and monitor if no one has an immediate problem. Alanbuchanan (talk) 02:19, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

is Roy keane still an ambassador for the Irish Guide Gogs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.43.11.24 (talk) 11:18, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Since the civil war
"most dramatic ideological split the country had seen since the Irish Civil War" - this sounds like an exaggeration, to put it mildly. How big was it really? Some more stuff in the article (quotes etc) would be great. CTOAGN 10:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) It was even claimed by some to be the most dramatic ideological split the country had seen since the Irish Civil War. This is the greatest load of nonsense I have ever read on Wikipedia. What sort of fact is this ? Pal X 08:36, 30 September 2005 (UTC) The article never said that it was the most dramatic split; merely that it was claimed by some to be. And by some, I mean both the Irish Independent and the Irish Times sports sections, the two most respected papers in the country. NaLaochra 18:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

with one half of the nation standing by Roy Keane and the other half supporting Mick McCarthy. and another half of the nation who couldn't give a toss about the antics of two overpaid prima donnas who wrote this stuff ? Pal X 11:36, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

If you are really so indifferent about football to the extent where you think that the Saipan Incident wasn't a major event in Irish current affairs - despite the fact that the Taoiseach himself intervened - then you clearly aren't in a position to be judging the merits of a football-related article.NaLaochra 18:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Let's not get too ahead of ourselves now. It was a big deal in footballing terms and indeed cultural terms but I don't think we should be calling it the biggest split since the Civil War!  --Lochdale 18:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The whole Saipan fracas should be moved to a seperate article, as it is an incident that involves Keane, McCarthy, the FAI, Niall Quinn etc. etc. and isn't only about Roy Keane, so doesn't belong on this page. It's clogging up

"But, in terms of his support, that is where it started and ended. There is no financial contribution Dermot will make towards this deal."

Manager Gordon Strachan added: "He has proved over the last 15 years that he is a competitor.

"You can't get enough competitors in your squad and this was too good a chance to miss."

Keane will not be eligible to make his Celtic debut against Hearts at Tynecastle on New Year's Day as Scottish Premier League rules do not allow for players to be both registered and play on the first day of the new transfer window.

He will instead be aiming to face Clyde at Broadwood Stadium in the Scottish Cup third round the following weekend." bbc quote from RK article

I can't see any mention of either the £22,500 wage limit, or of the quote from Peter Lawwell, so I've amended the article to reflect what the BBC article actually says.--TheMadTim 19:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

What a mess! -- This article used to be readable but so many people with their own agendas have stuck sentences in all over the place that it's all over ther shop. There are references to Haaland everywhere, you could nearly be forgiven for thinking it was an article about Haaland himself. Perhaps Haaland needs his own section. Also, the past 10 months of his career have loads of text and the first 12 years are talked through very quickly. This is kind of lopsided.

The thing needs total reorganisation and cleaning up. Should I put in a clean up tag?

Roy Keane, PhD?
The PhD letters after his name look a bit daft. Even though he's got a honorary doctorate, it looks like trying to make him out to be something he's not. He's a professional footballer (and a damn fine one), not a scientist or expert historian or something.


 * I whole heartedly agree with that sentiment. Looks like someone removed it anyway.

POV
"During his time at United, Keane was widely regarded as one of the finest midfield players of his generation" "He is commonly held as one of the finest central midfielders to have played the game."

Commonly held by whom? The only quotes are from British players/managers and as Ireland never really preformed on the World or European stage as much as other people who play in the same role how can he be considered the finest to have played the game? Shouldn't that be the "to have played the game in England/Britain"?

--ptegan

From this article "Dutch manager Louis van Gaal was so impressed by Keane's performances that he nominated the Corkman for FIFA World Player of the Year."

ptegan, I think you make a good point re: POV. I believe though it is a widely held POV by the football community, as opposed to the POV of the article contibutors. I think the comments should stay.--Downunda 06:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

GA nomination
Not sure what's going on here - comments on nomination page imply this is on hold and that changes have been made to answer 'concerns raised on talk page'. However, can't see anything here relating to those comments. Anyway - will be assessing this over the next half hour or so, so watch this space........ 4u1e 23:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Going through the categories one by one:

Images: The picture seems to have the wrong copyright tag - it's an image of a DVD cover taken from the website that sells it, no? Surely the owner of copyright hasn't released all rights to it? Website (Hart Sharp Video) says all rights reserved. My belief is that you can't use this image here, but by all means consult someone more expert than me. 4u1e 23:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Stability: Good - no major changes over the last week. 4u1e 23:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Factually accurate and verifiable: I've no reason to argue with the accuracy of the article. References have been given, but only the very barest bones. Inline citation would be better, but is not strictly required here. Even then, these references are borderline acceptable, because the references consist only of a listing of the books, with no indication of where within the books the information is located. This is particularly important because of the various controversies covered in the article, how is the reader to know whose views are being represented? See Citing_sources for better ways to do it, but I suppose (reluctantly) it can't be failed for this. 4u1e 00:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * After further reading, I've got more worries about this - Ferguson's statement in November 2005 that he "wouldn't predict" on Keane's management future at United can't have come from the hardcopy references, which pre-date it, and it's not cited elsewhere. 4u1e 00:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Broad coverage: Seems to cover everything - except his personal life (family, early life etc). However, the criterion here is broad, not comprehensive, so that's OK. 4u1e 00:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Well written: Structure's fine. Style looks OK - although Weasel words appear in a few places. Writing's mostly good, but occasionally clumsy or redundant: "Many say if it wasn't for Forest, Roy Keane may have never made it to the big time had Brian Clough not signed him as a pro, as he went from semi-pro to one of the most sucesssful players in English football."
 * The 'Many say' would be a good example of weasel words, by the way. Who said? 4u1e 01:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Too many single or double sentence paragraphs, I'm afraid. Only break a para when moving from one topic to another - I reckon the number of paragraphs here can usefully be cut by about two thirds. For example, the section on popular culture should be three paras at most - one on The Roykeaneiad, one on I, Keano and one on Morrisey's album. 4u1e 00:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View: Spotted one fan-ism: "he played on as valiant as ever and got his team through", and the lack of full citation makes me wonder how neutral the rest of the article really is. He's a controversial man, after all. 4u1e 00:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Overall: That image needs either removing or a more convincing case for it's copyright made and the writing needs polishing up in line with comments above - particularly the arrangement of the paragraphs. What really worries me though is the citation in a biography of such a controversial man. I suspect the article is slightly pro-Keane, rather than neutral. A more comprehensive approach to citation would make a much more convincing case. For all of those reasons, I'm going for a fail - the image and the writing can be fixed quite quickly, the citation may take longer, but given that the editors have copies of the books listed, should be easy enough. Cheers. 4u1e 00:46, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

League games
I quote from Template talk:Infobox football biography:


 *  &mdash; A &lt;br /&gt; delimited list of appearances and (goals) that the player has been awarded in league competition only for each professional club.

Roy Keane played 326 matches and scored 33 goals in the Premiership, according to the Sky Sports Yearbook, Soccerbase and just about every other reliable source. The number 481 (51) which keeps resurfacing in the article includes cup games, European games, Charity Shield etc. However, the guidelines for the infobox clearly states league games only, so I'm changing it back. Again. --Badmotorfinger 17:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Does this book exist?
I am not able to find reference to this book outside of Wikipedia and its mirror sites. It was originally listed with an invalid ISBN. Can someone provide more information? Thanks. Keesiewonder talk 10:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

GREATEST PLAYER EVER
People say that of recent years Zinedine Zidane has been the greatest player of the game (soccer, football) but i strongly believe that Roy Keane has been. In the occasions where the 2 have met and played against eachother Roy Keane has been the overall winner on every occasion. Whoever disagrees must be either lying, blind or extremley biasedRisteard B 14:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you are getting this site mixed up with foot.ie!--Vintagekits 14:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You may believe Roy Keane is the greatest of this generation, but it's just your opinion. We rely on the opinions of people who work in the field; if a player is the greatest of recent, we expect him to be touted as such by the sports press, footballers both past and present, managers and neutral fans. Roy Keane is not widely considered to be the greatest of this generation. In fact, I doubt very many Man Utd fans would claim that he was greater than Zidane. Yes, we all remember his performance against Juventus, but Zidane is widely considered to be the better player. Don't believe me? Look at this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane#Awards.2C_honours.2C_and_appointments . Zidane is a World Cup and European Championship winner, and has a plethora of individual awards. Most significantly of all, Zidane was voted World Player of the Year three times. Kronix1986 12:20, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I can understand that, within Ireland, the departure of Roy Keane from the Wold Cup squad must have caused a huge debate which went well beyond the scope of football. Therefore, I don't take issue with the article addressing how Keane's attack on what he saw as the incompetence of the Irish FA and Mike McCarthy was then taken up by others at home, outside of football, who had criticisms of the country's establishment in general. However, I think that the manner in which the fallout from the affair is dealt with needs to be tightened up as, at the moment, it tends to repeat itself quite a lot and is not as clear as it could be. On a seperate tack, the article also has no information about Keane's early background. These are not criticisms. It is just that I don't believe this piece, as it stands, reaches the levels of, say, the Encyclopaedia Britannica - and that, presumably, is what Wikipedia should be about. And, no, I'm not volunteering to do the work myself.

a whitfield

Saipan incident
If its just "an incident" - why does it take up more of the article than his entire Man Utd career which lasted something like 13 years? To anyone who knows nothing about him, it seems to focus too heavily on this section.

Also his managerial career, all of 9 months or so is already taking up a large chunk of the article. I believe this article should be overhauled to truly reflect his career in the right context - if someone took the standpoint of "how would it look as an obituary" when constructing a re-write you might get the right balance Seedybob2 20:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC) (big Keano fan!)


 * 100% agreed. I deleted a chuck of commentary which really had little relevance to the article. Further tidy-up required (will try to contribute to this over coming day or two). Downunda 01:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice one Downunda - perhaps I should have suggested that if if was significant to create a Saipan incident article in its own right? Seedybob2 06:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think so, it is really cloging up this article and is probably worthy of its own page Downunda 01:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Born in Mayfield
Does somebody have a source for this claim? Was he born at home? As far as I know there's no hospital in Mayfield... 87.210.35.24 (talk) 14:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC) Probably Saint Finbars. Buy his book!! Or alter to "...was born to a Mayfield home\family..." ThisMunkey (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Image
Why is the image gone?--86.45.136.204 (talk) 13:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that alright. I took the photo of him so if there is a problem with it I could reupload to commons.--Vintagekits (talk) 18:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The image is back. The offending edit. ~ Eóin (talk) 02:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Roy Keane's Picture not exactly up to date
Just noticing with this article, that the picture used is of Roy Keane during his Manchester United playing days. I think that this picture is perhaps inappropriate, and a picture should be used that identifies Roy Keane as the Manager of Sunderland. Roy has even said himself, that he no longer wishes to be seen as the ex-Man United captain and does no like to be asked to sign autographs on Man United memorabilia, as he feels that is disrespectful to his current employers, who are in competition with Manchester United in the Premier League.

Please let me know if you agree that a change of photograph would be acceptable on these grounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letalent (talk • contribs) 14:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you have a better photo, please upload it to Wikimedia Commons and add it to the article. – PeeJay 15:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

The picture is definitely not very good. We should use one from a match with Sunderland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireball07 (talk • contribs) 11:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, if you have one that fits that description, then please upload it. Until then, the current one is the best we have. – PeeJay 16:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Managerial career
The entire section seems a bit POV and just littered with random junk. Aaron carass (talk) 17:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm trying to cut down some of the POV stuff, that sounds a bit pro-Keane, pro-Sunderland.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Charity Work
I think a small section should be added on Roy's involvement with certain charities such as the Irish guide dog association and the Special Olympics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.196.225 (talk) 14:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Place of Birth
Just wondering whats the story with not saying the proper name of Ireland in d infobox? At the Irish manual of style it says:

'' A compromise has been proposed at WP:IWNB that the form "is a town on the coast of County Cork, Ireland " should be used. This is already widely used and will allow it to appear as Ireland whilst linking to Republic of, as per Follow local conventions.''

So why is the Roy Keane article breaking Wikipedia policy? I don't think it should be.


 * Two days on it looks like there's no objections, there was edit-warring on this I can see so I will wait a little longer to make sure no one is against this edit.Paddypc (talk) 12:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Making an article less clear isn't logical. Why change it? Lord Cornwallis (talk) 12:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by less clear? Currently it is very unclear as there is no country in the world whose name is the Republic of Ireland. Ireland is the accepted official name of the country and it is wikipedia policy to show the correct name while linking to the correct article. Here are links to other Irish sportsmen which abide by Wikipedia policy just so you understand the situation. Brian O'Driscoll and Padraig Harrington. The current situation is incorrect and needs to be accurate.Paddypc (talk) 13:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

There would be more of an argument for change if the state's article was at Ireland. Currently it is at Republic of Ireland, you might be better off proposing a move of that article.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * There is currently a huge argument going on there about the name of the article title. But that has nothing to do with here. You haven't provided why you insist on defying Wikipedia policy shown above and also defying the official name of a country. An article title is not an excuse to show incorrect facts!What is your reason?Paddypc (talk) 18:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Having seen the WP:IMOS guidelines, I'd say your stance is probably the correct one. However, the way this matter has been conducted is all wrong. The guidelines should have been cited as the reason for the change to begin with, and then this whole stupid mess could have been avoided. Make your changes. – PeeJay 19:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The change can't be made on this page as the page is locked to non long term users, you'll have to make the change.Paddypc (talk) 21:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

If it matters so much to you, Paddypc, become a long-term user and make the change yourself, don't just sit there, looking for problems and then demanding other people fix them without contributing anything yourself. 82.71.13.219 (talk) 16:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)user XN3alpha

1999 Champions League
In his 2003 autobiography, Keane, Keane admits that although he has a Champions League medal, he does not believe he deserves it. That seems to indicate that if you asked Keane what honours he won while with Manchester United, he would not list the 1999 Champions League among them. Should we not, therefore, omit the 1999 Champions League from his list of honours? – PeeJay 21:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's not down to the player's opinion. Similarly, if a former player sells his medals, the honours still apply. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 21:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If Keane doesn't deserve it then what about Jonathan Greening?! :-) But I agree the player's opinion isn't relevant for honours. Can be mentioned in the article text though I guess. --Jameboy (talk) 21:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) (to ArtVandelay13) That's a slightly different situation though. You don't have to have a medal to have won a competition, just like you don't have to have won a competition to have a medal. Keane says in the book, "No matter how many people tell me I deserve that Champions League medal, I know I don't. In fact, you could argue that my indiscipline came very close to costing us the treble." – PeeJay 21:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know it's slightly different, but I think it's similar enough to make the comparison. Regardless, the point stands, and while Keane's hairshirtedness may be worthy of a footnote, the record should still stand. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Times Interview
There's a revelatory interview in one of the Irish national newspapers here. Should be useful in expanding the article. Skomorokh 05:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Alf-Inge Haaland incident reference
The text says:

"Håland briefly considered taking legal action against Keane, but after both legal and medical advice he later decided otherwise. The Norwegian retired from football shortly afterwards, stating on his website that it was a recurring problem in his other leg that was causing him pain, rather than an injury resulting from Keane's tackle.[19]"

...but reference #19 does not point to Alf-Inge Haaland's website, despite the implication in the text, and the article that it does point to does not back up the claims being made about Haaland taking legal advice and that the problem was with his other leg (quite the opposite, in fact - it says "So, Keane has ended a fellow player's career")...

As such I've deleted the parts of the text that can't be verified. 192.93.164.23 (talk) 14:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I have just re-deleted that same part for the same reasons. Why did it get back on here?67.193.201.42 (talk) 17:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Nom
The references need to use the cite web template. Also a few of the paragraphs need references such as the first one in his early career section. Spiderone 12:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

There is a Troll here
While I was editing the biography under the Keane's photograph (he played for Gay United, Villarreal, Valencia, Argentina...) I made a mistake, so I had to edit again, but someone else hade edited again Gay United, Argentina and all this!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.8.215.90 (talk) 10:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant
Following his rise to fame Triggs was mentioned by several sources on many occasions, with Keane dogged by numerous canine references for the remainder of his career.

Have to commend the editor who typed up this sentence. Pure brilliance haha Morhange (talk) 05:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Dog
Am I the only one who thinks the Dog section is completely out of proportion? It looks messy flooded with all those citations and it's longer than some of the more relevant paragraphs in this article. I mean, there are three lines explaining a joke that Russell Brand once made about Roy Keane's dog(s) - I really don't think that's necessary... Mato (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It's kinda funny though 130.88.99.221 (talk) 01:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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Please add a full stop to the opening line.
Please add a full stop to the opening line Dowtchaboy12 (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2021
A sentence which is written within Keane's later career section has a grammatical error. In the first paragraph beginning with sentence 3 the start is as follows, "They have eventually knocked out on away goals after a 3–3 aggregate draw with Bayer Leverkusen, despite Keane putting United 3–2 up." I believe the sentence should start "They were eventually knocked out..." ThatEngineer98 (talk) 11:57, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. Volteer1 (talk) 12:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2021
hes 50 92.40.169.144 (talk) 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Simple error suggesting the RoI were in a World Cup finals with Roy
In club career by source 55 it reads “Vieira, however, later suggested that having walked out on his national team in the FIFA World Cup finals, Keane was not in a good position to comment on such matters.” the issue is in the use of the world ‘finals’ which is incorrect and the already quoted source says this. 86.14.39.120 (talk) 23:54, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


 * How is it wrong? Are you confusing the finals for the final? – PeeJay 00:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Laugardalsvollur
change ((Laugardalsvollur)) to ((Laugardalsvöllur)) 98.239.227.65 (talk) 15:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

British transfer record linked wiki page doesn't support statement
This page says his transfer to man UTD broke the British transfer record and links to that wiki page, but the wiki page on the British transfer record does not mention Roy Keane and the numbers on that page suggest it wasn't a record at the time Mga.allen (talk) 14:34, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Departure from United
It has been denied by Keane, and his denial has been confirmed by other players present, that he ever mentioned Rio Ferdinand's wages. This section needs heavy editing as it does not in away present the truth of what happens. It merely presents media speculation as fact and needs to be altered significantly to give the true story of what happened - which has been confirmed by the majority of people presents at the players meeting where they watched the video. 185.150.170.2 (talk) 14:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Ted lasso Roy kent
Ted lasso Wikipedia entry notes that he is the model for the Roy Kent character in Ted lasso. Seems worth mentioning 71.58.94.212 (talk) 04:45, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2023
Change mention of 13 red cards to 12. No evidence of 13 red cards during career. Evidence of 11 red cards for Manchester United, 1 for Republic of Ireland. 2A00:23C7:5C11:BA01:E089:9351:5659:1368 (talk) 16:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Seawolf35 (talk - email) 18:44, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/roy-keane/leistungsdaten/spieler/3396 86.173.27.79 (talk) 21:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. – PeeJay 18:31, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no source at all for the current misinformation. 5.61.122.211 (talk) 08:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)