Talk:Rupert Grint

Editing Dates
If there is an event in this persons life that you are sure that is going to happen (i.e, movie involvment or releases), put them in the past tense. If you are unsure if the event is going to take place, it would be better to leave out said event until it does happen. Never do encyclopedias say "currently", "soon to be", or "will . . ."

Hannah Murray
I'm not sure if this should be added or not, as I've found no sources (apart from Hannah Murray's Wikipedia page) but it's been said that those two are dating. Is it wise to add it? --Eperdermic 16:43, 30th March 2007 (UTC)
 * We can add encyclopedic neutral material that is verifiable from reliable sources, but must avoid potentially slanderous gossip and rumours. Mr. Grint's current dating relationaships with other people are his business, along with his eating, bathroom, and hygiene habits; but not particularly notable or encyclopedic, as there is no legal status with who he likes today.  They could be "head-over-heels in love" today and have a huge fight tonight and break up permanently tomorrow.  Marriage and official engagements are different, but we still have to be careful to avoid slander and libel.  There are plenty of unreliable Paparazzi sources out there who might firmly assert that Grint is now engaged to Brittney Spears and they even tried to elope, and they might even provide all sorts of photo-shopped "proof" of this, in order to sell gossip magazines.  The Wikipedia is expected to rise above that nonsense.  Again, there is a big difference between engagement or marriage, and simply going out for burgers and a dance last Thursday. See also: Biographies of living persons --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 16:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Photos
I'm going to make the same complaint I made about the Daniel Radcliffe article regarding the photos: this article is too short to have two photos and not look ridiculous, especially since (as is currently the case on the Daniel Radcliffe page) one of the photos is right on top of the other. Someone needs to either move one of the photos down or delete it all together. --Hazey Jane 06:15, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

- It's there probably to show Rupert himself and his most recognized character. 20:44, 1 September 2005

Who put this?

Trivia
Took out the sibling thing as it is already in the actual article and the ice cream man thing as it's more of a fansite thing. Actually the Trivia section should be taken out all together as it contains information that can be found on any fansite, and it really is more of "fansite information"
 * I'm okay with some of the trivia there, though I'm glad you took out the bit about him wanting to be an ice cream man, as that seems especially trivial (not to mention, virtually unverifiable). --Hazey Jane 23:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with the first comment&mdash;unsigned though it is. This is becoming more a fan page than an encyclopaedia article, and I'm tempted to slap it with a cleanup tag... Radio  Kirk   talk to me  14:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

"Criticism" section
''Grint has drawn some criticism from fans for his portrayal of Ron in the films. Some defend him as the best and only choice, others accuse him of ruining the Ron character. While Ron was always clearly more light hearted and laid back than Harry and Hermione, and on occasion the victim of a joke at his expense, his occasional foolishness is frequently overplayed in the films for comic relief, often making him out to be a completely inept buffoon and a coward at times when the book had him acting bravely, and many fans blame Grint for making Ron an effeminate, inarticulate wimp. Hermione, on the other hand, is made out to be much wiser, stronger, prominent, and even funnier than her book counterpart. The way the scripts are written may also play a factor in this.''

POV, but does it need to be deleted or just rewritten? CJHung 16:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Part Irish Descent?
Does anyone know where that info is from? I haven't been able to pick it up in web-searches (aside from references stemming from Wiki mirror sites, that is).Vulturell 03:31, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Rupert is of English and Scottish ancestry.

Bollocks
Rupert Grint is not of Irish descent. This is more of an anti-ginger statement than anything, because Rupert has red hair he must be Irish..

Rup-Dawg on the Radio
For whoever it was who said they had no proof that my man Rup-Dawg was on the radio, here it is. [].

-Woody user:Waldo J. Cartridge

Rupert Referenced in HBP
I have removed the claim that Rupert was referenced in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. I apologize for not immediately citing a source on the discussion page, I was in a hurry and forgot I even made the change until someone sent me a message requesting a citation. I'm pretty sure that JK Rowling herself has said something on this subject, but I couldn't find it before I found [|this] from Arthur Levine, the American editor. '' p. 485: [Professor Slughorn says:] “Had a house-elf taste every bottle after what happened to your poor friend Rupert.”

''We’ve received a number of e-mails suggesting that Ms. Rowling must have been thinking of Rupert Grint (who plays Ron in the films) here and thus accidentally substituted his name for Ron’s. But truly this substitution is a deliberate choice on Ms. Rowling’s part: She is underlining the fact that Professor Slughorn has never paid very much attention to Ron, to the point that he still gets Ron’s name wrong even after Ron almost died in his rooms, and thus pointing up again Slughorn’s particular taste for “the company of the famous, the successful, and the powerful,” as Dumbledore says, over those who may be less flashy but are just as worthy, like Ron.''

I'd also like to point out his request: Before you write to us about a possible mistake in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, we ask that you check our list of errata and explanations below. Likewise, before putting anything on Wikipedia about supposed mistakes, you should check that link first. -- Crushti 20:22 UTC, 8 April 2006

Thanks for the source, it even rings a bell. I'm not sure that it rules out the possibility of Grint having influenced the choice of that name, though, escpecially in light of the other nods to hp culture. Anyway, i was thinking of adding a paragraph to the main HBP (book) article about possibe references to that, and i think this piece of trivia belongs there, if anywhere. The reference to it already there is a little informal and repetative.Amo 20:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Photo Image Substitution and Reversion
On the question of Rupert's Image - my intention was to provide a PR image that showed Rupert as Rupert, not as "Ron Weasley" - where the same image is used. The image I uploaded (and then was speedily deleted on my request, shortly after the copyvio claim) was among the publicity photos at The Leaky Caudron, and appeared to be from a PR poster, which qualifies as a "promotional photo" in fair use, to illustrate a person. It was subsequently claimed to have been taken from a magazine article (and not a cover either) and on further inspection it appeared to be as claimed (some foreign "teen" magazine). That image, as stated, has been deleted, and the original Ron Weasley photo reset. HOWEVER - I really would like us to get to work on replacing all these movie-based photos (like Rupert as Ron Weasley) on the actor's pages, with proper PR photos of the actors (and actresses) being themselves, as there is more to their lives than posing in character for the popular movies they appear in. Thanks, and apologies for the copyvio error. --T-dot 17:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, you're correct, and thank you for the reminder&mdash;I had done so for Emma Watson, and intended to do the same for Messrs. Grint and Radcliffe, but got busy elsewhere. Lemme see if I have a few moments. :)  Radio Kirk   talk to me  18:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Second Name: Alexander vs. Michael
What is the real second name? Warner and IMDb say Alexander, but Google says Michael (11.000:200). --Seewolf 08:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well since Warner Bros. "owns" Mr. Grint, they can technically call him Billy-Bob if they wish. Seriously though, since Grint works for WB - you can take WB as verifiable WP:V and as a reliable source WP:RS, and the IMDb simply gets the official info from the studio and unofficial info from elsewhere.  If WB gets it wrong, Grint can correct it.  What is Google's source?  Some random fan site or blog page run by an obsessed Grint fan (also) named "Rupert Michael" who wants to impress his classmates?  --T-dot 10:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * T-dot is correct; WP:V states, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." RadioKirk (u|t|c)  13:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

18th birthday party
I read in a newspaper that there was a sexual assault at his birthday party. DavidJJJ 10:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thus far, all versions of this story I can find quote The Daily Mail. At this moment, anyway, I'm not comfortable with inclusion here. RadioKirk (u|t|c)  13:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

well just because you dont feel comfortable with it doesn't mean it shouldn't be included. There was an allegation and therefore it should be included as an 'allegation'. its the same with any other article. im sorry, i think there should be a reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.14.252 (talk • contribs)

Radio Kirk didn't say he wasn't confortable with allegation (who wouldn't be), he said he wasn't comfortable with including it here. To me sounds like he's trying to say that he thought about it and decided not to, rather than express his feelings about the incident itself. I happen to agree. So far as i know, there's been no suggestion that the incident involves Grint. Perhaps if that had been suggested, as in the Michael Barrymore swimming pool case, then perhaps it would merit inclusion. but as is, i think not. user: Amoammo


 * Quite correct. One, The Daily Mail is a tabloid; two, the accusation it prints is peripheral to Grint at best. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. RadioKirk (u|t|c)  18:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Right then, in that case I'll delete the section in the Russell Brand section about rape claims as he was cleared of being involved in a supposed rape at his rented flat in edinburgh. This seems to be a similar situation to Grint therefore should not be included. Mitoy11 16:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

No longer a child actor
Rupert Grint is 18 years old so he should be removed from the child actors category, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.148.44 (talk) 19:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Neither is Warwick Davis; I presume he remains in the category as he was one when he filmed Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi. RadioKirk (u|t|c)  19:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

"Rupert Alexander Lloyd Grint"?
Where is the source that "Lloyd" ist Ruperts third forename? The given reference to the GoF-Flash-Website only speaks of him as "Rupert Alexander Grint". I've never heard of "Lloyd" as one of Ruperts names before. 84.61.56.125 22:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, under his picture, it states his name as Rupert Micheal Grint. Surely this is a mistake?


 * According to IMDB he is Rupert Alexander Grint . Thanks.  --T-dot ( Talk/ contribs ) 11:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes it's Alexander. But I ask again: Where is the source for "Lloyd" as his third forename? 84.134.144.195 16:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone added the third name "Lloyd" in the German article (I reverted it). So this interests me too: Where is the source for "Lloyd"? The referenced source in the article only gives "Alexander" as second name - or it gave, the website doesn't seem to be complete any more or I have a flash problem. -- Zef 13:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

No photo!?!
How can there be no photo of this actor!?! JayKeaton 01:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless a Wiki-editor, or some other kind soul, takes Mr. Grint's picture and then provides it freely to the Wikipedia, then we are stuck at "because". Freely provided images of living persons can be posted, with the permission of the photographer or creator, under the Image Use policy.  Images created by and for the press, or by professional photographers, or by others who own the copyright on the image, such as those found on most web sites, fall under the Wikipedia's Fair Use policy, which forbids posting "An image of a living person that merely shows what they look like."  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 16:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

www.rupertgrint.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitty Grint (talk • contribs) 03:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Namechecking
I think Deiz made a very poor decision to delete the family member information. There is no namechecking policy as such. A random look at three other biographical articles, Lindsay Lohan, J K Rowling, and Madonna, showed similar information about family members. Linkboyz 02:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've restored my earlier comments. Please see WP:TALK.  Have a nice day!!  Linkboyz 04:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Protect this article from tampering
Due to the release of the next Harry Potter film on Wednesday, July 11th, It may be a wise idea to prevent non registered people from editing this article to protect against any excessive vandalism that may occur as a result of the article being unprotected.

Deity of Battle 22:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Jimmy Wales has stated that articles should not be proactively blocked for fear of future vandalism (most of it will be focused on the book's page). The RC patrol is always checking for changes, and all Rubert Grint regulars have to make sure to warn the vandals, as most stop after one warning. If vandalism increases, the page should be semi-protected as that should be enough (hopefully). dr.alf 02:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Lead
Lead does not follow WP guideline: see Lead. The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, summarizing the most important points, explaining why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describing its notable controversies, if there are any. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic according to reliable, published sources. The lead should not "tease" the reader by hinting at but not explaining important facts that will appear later in the article. It should contain up to four paragraphs, should be carefully sourced as appropriate, and should be written in a clear, accessible style so as to invite a reading of the full article. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 17:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Note: This is not vandalism, but the is an 'unknown' movie in Britian and it is called Fart Boy or Thunderpants that Rupert Grint starred in. I am wondering why this is not on his bio? You can find this movie just by Googling it and I have seen it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.155.17 (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Sense
There's something odd in the "Early life" subsection (1.1). Anthony DiFiore is his brother, yet he has only one brother, James? Or is DiFiore the brother of Nigel, Rupert's father?

After the name of Anthony DiFiore, is this not the start of a new sentence, referring to DiFiore? This bit's reading as if some copying and pasting has been done and not cleaned up. I haven't, therefore, tried to correct it.

What is an "actor dealer"?

We also say his father is "a memorabilia". A memorabilia dealer? An antiquary/antiquarian/antiques dealer?

--Ajarmitage (talk) 11:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Allegation of being hit with the swine flu virus
In order to have the content kept if it is the case please provide a reliable source to proof that he has being with the H1N1 flu per WP:V and WP:BLP. Thanks. Otherwise the page will be protected if it is added without sources. JForget 20:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have added content on his bout of swine flu using BBC as a reference, hope that will be ok. Bacchus87 (talk) 22:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why is it necessary to mention that he had the swine flue? People get sick all the time...  The  leftorium  22:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think due to the amount of press coverage this has recieved and the status of swine flu makes it notable of inclusion in the article Bacchus87 (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Place of birth
According to birth records, Grint was born in Harlow, Essex, not Hertfordshire. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If you can provide a reliable source for this, then we'll change the info. :-) -Duribald (talk) 13:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is the search result I got on findmypast.com. I did it because on the Stevenage page, Grint was listed as being born in Stevenage, but here it only said Hertfordshire. Then I searched the internet and people on a forum were saying Harlow and Watton-at-Stone. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As someone who was born in Hertfordshire, I'll throw my two pennies worth in. If Grint's parents were resident in Watton-at-Stone when he was born, the likelihood is that he was born at Lister Hospital (it's in Stevenage and it's the nearest to Watton). The other Herts option would be QEII in Welwyn Garden City. If he was Harlow, it would be Princess Alexandra Hospital, but this would usually be an unlikely option for a family living in that part of Hertfordshire. I have absolutely no idea which is correct, but if anyone wants to research it, those might help with narrowing down search results :). Sky83 (talk) 15:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT:If he was born in Watton-at-Stone, it would've been a home birth, it's a tiny village with no hospital. Sky83 (talk) 15:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I live in Stevenage and was born in WGC so I know a Watton-at-Stone birth would have been a home birth and that Lister and QEII are the closest hospitals. But if his birth was registered in Harlow (which it appears it was) would that usually mean he was born in that district? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be odd for a Herts family to go all the way to Harlow to register a birth if that's not where the birth took place, even if it was possible to do so. This seems to suggest that a Herts birth has to be registered in Herts, but whether that would've been the same 20 or so years back, I don't know. On the other hand this Essex site appears to suggest that it's possible to register a birth anywhere. This may be a mystery that we can't solve lol. Sky83 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless of course there is a more reliable source out there. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * True. This may well come down to seeing his birth cert lol. Sky83 (talk) 21:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, how does this findmypast.com thing work? WHo runs it? Where does the info come from? Who screens the info before it's added? :-) -Duribald (talk) 12:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Have a look at their about us page. Their information comes directly from the births, marriages and death indexes held at... wherever they're held (The National Archives?). AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Monkelese has now changed the place of birth to Harlow - and I agree with this per the above. – anemone projectors – 13:23, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request from Juji123, 5 October 2010
edit semi-protected

He once starred briefly in The Xmas Lunch Episode in The Vicar of Dibley as one of Alice Tinker's Choir.

Juji123 (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
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Marijuana Alligation.
Somebody just posted this on facebook, and I have no idea when it will start to circulate, but it's probably going to get big sometime... http://sourcefed.com/2011/04/22/ron-weasley-smokes-weed/ DanielDPeterson  ( talk ) 20:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * "This is categorically NOT Rupert Grint. It is an impersonator/lookalike". Edenc1 • Talk 20:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Well in any case, isn't it big enough to mention that it happened, but also counterpoint with that article, that is wasn't really him? DanielDPeterson  ( talk ) 01:23, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST FROM 77.86.93.64 (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Can we change "daily dose of milk" to "RDA"? "Daily dose" sounds like milk is some kind of medicine, and really gives off the wrong image... It's in the section about the "Make Mine Milk" campaign.

Thanks, 77.86.93.64 (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC).


 * Well, that's not the only problem with "awareness for how important it is to have your daily dose of milk", since you can only increase "awareness" of something that's indisputably true, and it's mostly the milk sellers that want to convince people there's any such "importance" in daily intake - it's especially dubious in that the ads seem to make no age distinctions (lactose intolerance increases with age) and don't address the question of lactose intolerance/lactase deficiency at all (the incidence of which is roughly 25% in white populations, and 75-90% among black, Native American, and Asian populations—roughly 75% of the world is lactose intolerant!) Something more like "seeks to increase milk sales by touting its supposed nutritional value" would seem to be more in order. - Nunh-huh 23:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.182.165.49, 16 July 2011
Please change this: The Movie maked worldwide US$3.4 million.[47]

To this: The Movie made US$3.4 million worldwide.[47]

Because: "maked" is not the past tense of "make"

71.182.165.49 (talk) 08:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed by reverting, not sure why they thought that was a helpful edit-- Jac 16888 Talk 08:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.178.33.100, 22 July 2011
His name isn't Rupert Alexander Grint it's Rupert Alexander Lloyd Grint it was that originally

86.178.33.100 (talk) 19:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

BLP sources reverted
Hi, I have reverted today's revisions due to WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:RS. Birth records cannot be used in this way, and rupertgrint.net is a nice-looking but unofficial fansite and of questionable reliability. Elizium23 (talk) 03:52, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree that birth records cannot be used as a source but they at least suggest there is an error. Place of birth should be removed re WP:BLP as no info is preferable to dodgy info according to the policy. Span (talk) 06:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I brought this up above and agree that we should remove his place of birth. We can't even seem to agree on a county. – anemone  projectors – 14:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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There's a "check quotation syntax" tag on the following text:

"After completing the final film he said: "I mean it literally has been my childhood and suddenly it all came down to really just one random scene, with us jumping through a fireplace, and then it was over. [...] But because you shoot out of sequence, it's often just 'Turn left, cross the room, okay, that's a wrap.' And you're done. [...] Yeah, it's very odd. Because suddenly it was all over, just like that. It was really emotional for all of us, realising that we're never going to be doing this again.[5] [check quotation syntax]"

Looking at the referenced link, the quote is from a Q & A session, with part of the supplied "quoted" text coming from questions, and part of it from his answers to those questions. The non-quote text is a significant portion of the total text however. It's a bit unclear to me as to how this should be best quoted here. One suggestion would be to remove the text from the questions, but then part of the context of the quote is lost. The other option would be to put the "question" text in square brackets, thus indicating that this text is not part of the quote.

As it stands, not all of the text quoted is from Grint, and the tag is indeed correct.

I'll have a look at formatting it with square brackets, but would appreciate review on the outcome, and removal of the tag if appropriate.

In the end, I've removed all of the non-quote text, I think it still makes sense without it :-) Mikeholden (talk) 01:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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