Talk:Rust shooting incident

Merge articles
I imagine it has been brought up before but I feel like these articles (Rust shooting incident and Rust (upcoming film) should be merged together. Sadly, it seems the entire article about the movie itself wouldn't even exist without the article about the shooting.  Just a thought!  conman33  (. . .talk)  03:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Problematic description of responsibilities for Hannah Gutierrez-Reed
"Gutierrez-Reed's last day in the role of armorer was October 17th. On the day of the incident, October 21st, she had no armorer responsibilities and was contracted solely as a prop assistant"

This is an inaccurate characterization of her responsibilities on the 21st. If she prepared a functioning weapon for filming, then she had the responsibility of armorer. The union contract with any production requires that that person be paid as an armorer for that day.

The document that this line references also provides much more context that is not respected here. Documented messaging between her and the line producer show that she was expected to play a dual role as prop assistant and armorer. Her role did not change from armorer to prop assistant. Nor did the verbal limit to the number of armorer days constitute any sort of contractual agreement. The production put her in the role of armorer when they asked her to unlock the arms safe 2600:4041:127:9700:0:0:0:100A (talk) 02:44, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Previous incedent disputed
Regarding the claim made by source 18

"Reached Tuesday by TheWrap, a producer of “The Old Way” denied the incidents and denied that anyone ever asked for the armorer’s dismissal. “I have no such recollection of this event on our set. I asked my partners the same,” the producer said. “The details on some of these accounts specifically when it pertains to ‘The Old Way’ have been blown out of proportion.”"

From https://www.thewrap.com/rust-armorer-inexperience-hannah-gutierrez-fired-nicolas-cage-film/ 2003:F7:7723:8B00:59D0:DB53:2AE3:3473 (talk) 15:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Armorer during the incident
The article says that Hannah was the armorer until a couple days before the shooting, but doesn't seem to answer the question of who the armorer was during the shooting. Anyone know? Should we add that? – Novem Linguae (talk) 07:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The text in question was removed in this diff, so I suppose this is resolved. – Novem Linguae (talk) 07:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Evidence about live ammunition
I saw this tonight. https://apnews.com/article/alec-baldwin-statement-trial-dismissed-2d3d036c8f998acb403fa2d4804d527f. I did a search of our article for "photo" and didn't find anything. Is this included in the article yet? Should we work it in somewhere?

– Novem Linguae (talk) 07:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)