Talk:S.H.I.E.L.D.

Equivalents?
what about a link to the british equivelant F.O.R.C.E. or A.S.S.H.A.T. or something equally stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.212.211.40 (talk • contribs • WHOIS ) 17:35, 13 June 2005 (UTC)
 * S.T.R.I.K.E. - now defunct, IIRC. --khaosworks 21:43, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Alliance color
I set it to grey "background:#cccccc" because in an organization like S.H.I.E.L.D., the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is always doing. See The New Avengers and The Pulse and Secret Wars (the new one) for more details. ~ Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l &#9998;&#9760; 23:17, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Yes, occasionally, there are rogue units, but that's exactly what they are: rogue units that are at odds with the mainstream of the organization. It's an governmentally and internationally sanctioned organization with legal authority that is usually on the side of the good guys. &mdash;Lowellian (talk) 23:31, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

SHIELD'S role has long been ambiguous. Originally the agency acted as a partially public anti-terrorist organization with authority to act anywhere in the World (Fury was seen reporting to a shadowy committee, presumably the United Nations Security Council, which (used to include) the USA.) However, with the passing of the years SHIELD has been reinterpreted more as a typical espionage agency, including doing "black ops" of questionable morality, as well as apparently answering only to the United States (which would make their activities illegal on foreign soil.) Note that SHIELD was recreated from the ground up (after the takeover by the Deltites, I believe) so maybe this change in nature happened then. I believe it was then that the original meaning of the Acronym was changed as well. Confirmations?

SHIELD's new role seems to overlap those of such organizations as the CIA and NSA, both of which apparently do exist in the Marvel Universe. This has not been clarified.

Also, an Iron Man miniseries claimed that SHIELD was Tony Stark's idea, but its canonicity might be in question.

Other facts that should be included in the main text:
 * Shield has twice tried to set up their own superhuman agent programs but both where eventually cancelled. The first time due to infiltration from agents of The Corporation (Quasar was a member of this team). (Need information on second superagent team.)
 * Their use of telepaths.
 * Their use of LMDs (Life Model Decoys).
 * The Deltite takeover.
 * The special branch created to fight GODZILLA (its existence IS canon in Marvel even today, as proven by the appearance of characters and concepts from the Godzilla comic book in other Marvel comics, such as Red Ronin's appearance in Avengers) even if the Giant Lizard itself cannot be referred to by name any more. Wilfredo Martinez 21:41, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Added facts on the first Super Agent team, the LMDs, the Psi-division and the Godzilla Squad. Still need info on the second Super Agent squad. Wilfredo Martinez 05:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

SHIELD AS US AGENCY
The events of Bendis's New Avengers run (specifically NA16) pretty much spell out that SHIELD is solely a US agency (when it stopped being a UN Agency is beyond me). I'll alter the article to that effect tomorrow unless someone has seen something to indicate that is not the case.

--Charlesknight 16:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Please refer to the Helicarrier article for contrary evidence - Dwight Williams

Rating
Why is SHIELD listed as low-importance on the importance scale for comics? HYDRA was just listed as Mid, as are a lot of other articles less significant than SHIELD.

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Sgt. Rock v.s. Nick Fury
Didn't these two Commando Units Battle among themselves from time to time. And didn't Sgt Rock's group come out on top...and there also seemed to be a group that represented England? After watching IronMan tonight and the reference to S.H.I.E.L.D. it brought back some old memories, but I wasn't sure on this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gambler1 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't think so; Rock was DC, and Fury is Marvel. 92.20.7.246 (talk) 02:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Nick Fury was ALWAYS the leader of the Howling Commandos; as noted, of Marvel Comics.
 * Rock was ALWAYS the leader of "The Combat-happy Joes of Easy Company." Easy Co. was a property of D C Comics.
 * So far as I know, the two never met.
 * In the Howling Commandos' world, there was a rival Commando group, led by a rather nefarious sergeant whose name I forget. Yes, they mixed it up from time to time, and the Howlers always won. Half of Capt. Sawyer's job seemed to be keeping the two Commando groups from killing each other. 2601:280:4581:7F20:AD53:C911:A866:7E71 (talk) 06:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The rival squad were the Maulers, and Fury's rival was Bull McGiveney. The Howling Commandos had hospitalized McGiveney to prevent him from testifying at Fury's court martial. McGiveney never forgave them. Dimadick (talk) 19:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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HAMMER and the like should have their own articles instead of just redirects here:
HAMMER and the like should have their own articles instead of just redirects here: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.34.219 (talk) 01:03, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Phil Coulson
I don't think it's needed yet, but I have created a userspace draft for Agent Phil Coulson from Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and Thor. Feel free to edit it. :) --Boycool42 (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

As I mentioned on the MCU discussion page, I do believe that Coulson has earned his own page. He is in the new Ultimate Spider-Man TV Series, and Joe Quesada wants to incorporate him into comics at some point. I just don't know how to propose to make the page (Boycool142's page would be perfect). -- 99.126.137.220 (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

~ S.H.I.E.L.D. History ~

Has anyone readed the "S.H.I.E.L.D." Comic of Marvel. There's a new One Shot, that deals with the histroy of the agency and it's much diferent from what one can read in the article. I don't want to spoil something and I'm affraid, my English isn't strong enough to write all the stuff down here, but I guess this must become a part of the article. It's about Leonardo Da Vinci, Newton, S.H.I.E.L.D. founded in ancient times and so on. I've only readen the first issue, so if anyone got the second or the third, I don't know, how long the One Shot will be, she or he should add the new history here! Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.180.2 (talk) 17:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Issac Newton?
I am on this small personal quest to eradicate the misspelling "Issac Newton" from Wikipedia, and this page seems to have some, but since I don't have any of the comic books in question, I cannot check if it originates from them (in which case I'd be a little wary of correcting it). (On marvel.com, Google seems to find it spelled both ways.) Can someone who does have the comics confirm or deny how the name is spelled there? --Ørjan (talk) 00:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

The comics all spell his name as "Isaac Newton". --LexSanz (talk) 12:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! And thanks to those who corrected it.  I did not see your answer before as it had gone so long that I'd given up and taken the page off my watchlist. --Ørjan (talk) 14:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Removal of speculation that writers were unaware of SHIELD's history
Under the article's Fictional History section, there is a sentence that reads, " S.H.I.E.L.D. has been inconsistently portrayed as under U.S., rather than U.N., control, possibly by writers unaware of the agency's fictional history." The "possibly" portion of the sentence sounds like the editor who wrote it is putting in his own personal theory. I would like to remove that part of the sentence but wanted some consensus first. Applegamer (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

thor 2 mention
Darcy mentioned S.H.I.E.L.D. in Thor: The Dark World, yet is not included under "In other media" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.13.126.21 (talk) 23:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Fictional history links to "real-world" pages
Should there be links to such things as United Nations or President of the United States? I don't know the style you guys are going-for here, but i'd say these should link to their versions within the Marvel universe. JamesEG (talk) 16:42, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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