Talk:San Diego State University Fowler College of Business

Tuition and fees
New editor Slfinch has added tuition and fees to this article. I feel they do not belong per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. What is the opinion of other editors? Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 20:19, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Here is information to be added to the San Diego State College of Business page by an outside source.

Graduate Programs SDSU’s College of Business Administration offers seven graduate degree programs designed to prepare students for various positions within private, public and government organizations. Additionally, the college also offers two specialized graduate programs: the Sports Business MBA and the Executive MBA.

Students must have successfully completed the Graduate Management Admissions Test (GMAT) or Graduate Record Examination (GRE) to be considered for admission. Students with degrees in institutions where instruction was conducted in a language other than English must submit their IELTS or TOEFL scores to graduate admissions. The minimum required scores for admissions are 6.5 for IELTS and 80 for TOEFL.

Available for both part-time and full-time curriculums, SDSU’s MBA program has a general management focus, though students can elect to specialize in finance, marketing, accounting, management, entrepreneurship, project management, information systems, supply chain management or health services administration. To complete the MBA program, students must earn a minimum of 45 academic units and must maintain an overall GPA of 3.0. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfinch (talk • contribs) 23:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Master of Business Administration (MBA):

Students pursing an MSA degree at SDSU can design their curriculums to specialize in accounting information systems, financial reporting or taxation. They can also select a customized set of courses to meet specific professional needs and goals. To complete an MSA program, students must earn a minimum of at least 30 academic units and must earn at least a GPA of 3.0 in the program’s core courses.
 * Master of Science in Accountancy (MSA):

The BMACC program allows students to earn both their bachelor’s and master’s degrees in accounting within a five-year period. The BMACC program was established to satisfy the 150 academic units required by most states for CPA certification.
 * BS/MS in Accountancy (BMACC):

The MSIS degree was developed to provide students with a management-level knowledge of business and technology, a general technical understanding in information systems and domain skills in a specialized area chosen by the student. To complete an MSIS program, students must earn a minimum of at least 36 approved academic units. Typical length of time to complete the program is 1 ½ to 2 years for full-time students and 2 ½ to 3 years for part-time students.
 * Master of Science in Information Systems (MSIS):

The MSBA in financial and tax planning program is designed to provide in-depth professional financial planning education for those students pursuing wealth management positions or for those planning to sit for the Certified Financial Planner certification. To complete this program, students must complete a minimum of at least 30 academic units. Typical length of time to complete the program is 1 to 2 years for full-time students and 2 to 3 years for part-time students.
 * Master of Science in Business Administration (MSBA) in Financial & Tax Planning:

Concurrent programs leading to MBA and Juris Doctor degrees are offered through SDSU’s partnerships with California Western School of Law (CWSL) and Thomas Jefferson School of Law (TJSL). These concurrent degree programs are designed for students interested in working in fields where law and business converge. Students are expected to apply first to the law program (at either CWSL or TJSL) and then apply to the SDSU MBA program during their first year of law school. Students can expect to complete the joint MBA/JD in four years. SDSU’s MBA program requires 30 – 33 academic units (with credit transferable from both law schools) with 77 academic units from CWSL and 76 academic units required from TJSL. Degrees from both schools must be earned within the same semester.
 * Master of Business Administration/Juris Doctor (MBA/JD):

Offered as a concurrent three-year program with SDSU’s Center for Latin American Studies, the primary objective of this degree program is to educate students wanting to promote or engage in business relationships in Latin America or within the Latin American community residing in the U.S. To complete the MBA/MA in Latin American studies, students must earn a minimum of 63 academic units.
 * Master of Business Administration/Master of Arts (MBA/MA) in Latin American Studies:

SDSU’s Executive MBA (EMBA) program is designed for business professionals seeking senior management positions. The 21-month program meets from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on Fridays and Saturdays approximately every other week. Students must earn a minimum of 48 academic units to complete their degree requirements. Students must also participate in a two-week international residency experience.
 * Executive MBA (Specialized Program):

SDSU’s Sports Business MBA program is a full-time, 45-academic unit program intended for students wishing to pursue a career in the sports business industry either within the U.S. or internationally. The program starts in January and is designed to be completed in 18 months. In the first 12 months, students fulfill their academic coursework. The following January, students begin a four-to-six month internship.
 * Sports Business MBA (Specialized Program):
 * These will not be added to the university per WP:UNIGUIDE. In other words, Wikipedia is not a directory. ☔️ Corkythe hornetfan  🌺 23:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

The information uploaded looks both current and useful for anyone looking to learn more about this college. I don't believe it's being used as a directory. Robertpickstone (talk) 20:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * please read WP:UNIGUIDE. ☔️ Corkythe hornetfan  ☔️ 21:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Notable alumni

 * Bud Black ('79, management), former Major League Baseball player and manager
 * Adelia Coffman ('76, accounting), founding CFO, Qualcomm Incorporated
 * Luis Cruz ('88. finance), regional president, S. California Verizon Wireless
 * Will Demps ('01, information systems), former NFL player
 * Bradley Feldman ('93, MBA), president & CEO, Cubic Corporation
 * Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila ('00, management), former NFL player
 * Dennis Gilmore ('81, marketing), CEO, First American Financial Corporation
 * Rick Hamada ('82, finance), CEO, Avnet
 * Duncan D. Hunter ('01, information systems), congressman (CA-52), U.S. House of Representatives
 * Bret Johnson ('98, MSBA), CFO & president of Strategic Acquisitions Group, SpaceX
 * Wing Lam ('84, finance), founder/owner, Wahoo's Fish Taco
 * Linda A. Lang ('91, MBA), retired chair, CEO & president, Jack in the Box
 * Doug Manchester ('65, finance), chairman, The Manchester Group
 * John Oswald ('90, finance), co-founder and former CEO, Paul Frank Industries
 * Neil Schloss ('92, finance) corporate treasurer, Ford Motor Company
 * Ronda Sedillo ('94, accounting), senior vice president/CFO, San Diego Padres
 * James Sinegal, co-founder, adviser and director, Costco Wholesale Corporation
 * Mark Snell ('80, accounting), president, Sempra Energy

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfinch (talk • contribs) 22:57, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfinch (talk • contribs) 22:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfinch (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't even bother putting alumni who do not have a Wikipedia article already. See Write the article first. Most of those above are not going to be notable enough to be listed in the article. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 22:10, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I did read Write the article first and there are no guidelines that discuss rules pertaining to adding notable names or alumni that must have their own Wikipedia page. If these rules exist anywhere, please share them with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfinch (talk • contribs) 22:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, as recommended a couple of times, read WP:UNIGUIDE, particularly the Noted people section in this case. You may also want to look at featured articles at that university project to see how other university articles are written in addition to just the university you work for. Bahooka (talk) 22:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * WP:ALMAMATER, WP:LISTPEOPLE, WP:Notability (people), the list can go on. Wikipedia is not a directory and WP:WikiProject Universities has set a standard that unless they have a Wikipedia article, they don't get included because they are not notable. The only exception is a politician (both at the state and national levels). ☔️ Corkythe hornetfan  ☔️ 23:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I have read ALL the links you've given me and I'm still not seeing where notable people MUST have their own Wikipedia page. Please provide me evidence of this "rule" by copying and pasting it into this talk page and provide the reference page from where it was found. I am happy to abide by the rules, but if you cannot provide me with a rule and a legitimate page reference, I can only assume you are making up your own set of standards. User:Slfinch —Preceding undated comment added 23:34, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Posting my reply to the helpdesk question here too:


 * WP:CSC is probably the criteria you're looking for, specifically  Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future.. In you're specific case therefore you should engage the other users in discussion about whether your alumni are likely to meet this criteria (see WP:ACADEMIC and WP:ALUMNI too).  CaptRik (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Slfinch, none of the references you are adding even mention SDSU, much less the CBA. That information needs to be included. And Wikipedia is not a reference (Wahoo's). And the alumni should be notable enough for a WP article. Bahooka (talk) 20:50, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Slfinch, I think you can make a reasonable case that material, including alumni, can be added to this article that doesn't by itself meet our notability policy. In fact, that is the case in the majority of material that we add to every article so others who insist that some material must also be notable enough for an article are incorrect.  However, the material must be supported by reliable sources and germane to the topic.  In all honesty, a simple list of alumni who aren't notable enough for their own articles is very unlikely to add much to a reader's understanding of this topic.  So unless you're writing a list of alumni that help support a specific point - and note that the entire list itself would have to be drawn from a reliable source otherwise it would be original research - then it's completely reasonable for other editors to oppose its inclusion.  In summary, many of our colleagues are incorrect in the specific reasons they have provided here to oppose a list of alumni in this (or any other) article when those alumni aren't inherently notable but there are many other very solid reasons that they could also muster to support their opposition so you're left in almost the same position. Sorry! ElKevbo (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * ElKevbo, thanks very much for your help with this. Since I am new to Wikipedia, I am still learning as I go along. Getting a clear understanding of adding supporting documentation is a big help and I will try to fulfill those requirements. I also understand why I was not able to see any written rules about notable alumni having existing Wikipedia pages, because there aren't any. So with that in mind, I will move forward based on the written rules and I'll see how things shake out.Slfinch (talk) 23:09, 22 April 2016 (UTC)