Talk:Sandrail

Sandrail Site Update
After consulting a combination of dune enthusiasts and suppliers over 2011 to 2012 it became apparent that there was a need to update the "sandrail" page and create clear separation between a sandrail, sand car and dune buggy. The "sandrail" and "dune buggy" names became a mainstay during the mid-1960s and early 70s. The "sand car" simply became the next evolution in the vehicle which is most of what you see at "sand" shows each year today. Every effort was made to research the online update through surveys and talking with many of the key vendors and car builders throughout 2011 and 2012. surveys. As of this update, there is no page for the "sand car". Appreciating previous contributions was critically important. All previous information sections and content were kept in place whenever possible. M Brandt Sept 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DukeDoG123 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Name.
A “sand rail” is one of those three-skidded contraptions they use in the middle east, similar to land yacht but with skids (the “rails” themselves) since the wheels will sink in (most) sand. (I know some people like to repeat malicious dis-information, but this one’s ridiculous.) 65.100.56.147 (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC) A. REDDSON
 * Additionally, no one in the United States calls them “sand rails,” we call them “dune buggies”- Their actual names.65.100.56.147 (talk) 21:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)A. REDDSON
 * a dune buggy is not a rail buggy. totally two different things.  Skiendog (talk) 19:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Go back. Read at least ONE of those comments. THEN reply.174.25.16.247 (talk) 07:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)A REDDSON

mudding and hill-climbing rail buggies
should we include a bit on mudding and hill-climbing rail buggies? rail buggies have many other applications other than sand. Skiendog (talk) 19:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Right Name
Well, if you're from the middle east you may be right, but that's not where I'm from, I live in the USA. The name "Sandrail" became the defacto description for advanced dune buggies that don't use VW motors. The name "Dune Buggy" was derived from the long time nickname of the VW "Bug", because the car looked like a beetle. Original dunebuggies were also called "pan rails" because they virtually took the body off a VW Bug and left the "floor pan", then installed roll bars, or "rails" to be safe with rolled in the sand dunes. The name "dune buggy" didn't come from a "horse and buggy" phrase if that's what you're thinking. When off-roading started to mature around year 2000 with new technology motors such as a water cooled, computerized, fuel injected, 4 valve/cyl, dual overhead cam with turbo charger and intercoolers running 20lbs of boost (a boxer motor on steroids), plus 20+" of suspension travel, calling these advanced cars a "dune buggy" wasn't fair to the outclassed oldschool VW powered off-road cars called "dunebuggies".  There is virtually no comparison between these two types of cars, other than the fact they are both fabricated with tubing.  Dunebuggies are known to have about 4 to 9" of suspension, carburetors, push rods, and air cooling, all of which are 70yr old technology when you compare handling and HP/lb. It's like comparing a Chevrolet to a Lamborghini. Hence the alternative name, "sand rail", or sandrail. There thousands of sandrails in the world, and you won't hear the owners calling their $30K-$80K play-toy a "dunebuggy", trust me on that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdspurlock (talk • contribs) 23:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * NO. A “sand rail” is one of those three-skidded contraptions they use in the middle east, similar to land yacht but with skids (the “rails” themselves) since the wheels will sink in (most) sand. (I know some people like to repeat malicious dis-information, but this one’s insulting.)174.25.16.247 (talk) 07:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)A. REDDSON
 * User:174.25.16.247 Hmmmm, can't seem to find any instances of what you describe AND, having lived and worked in the ME for ARAMCO for many years, I have never seen anything like that which you describe. 100.34.54.60 (talk) 14:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Advertising
Most of the paragraph at the bottom looks like it was written by someone trying to sell sandcars, presumably the company that was listed as a "reference" (www.sandcar.com), which builds and sell sandcars. I also deleted some the the most apparent self promoting, about how "aftermarket industries provide whole sandcars and kits to home builders", because I suspect that "aftermarket industries" means "www.sandcar.com". The facts may be true, but it looked too much like someone selling something. The citations seem a little off, as well.AnnaGoFast (talk) 22:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)