Talk:Saturn S series

No mention is made of the key characteristic of the Saturn: polymer side panels.

Third generation S-series
There was actually a third generation of the S-series, at least for the sedan. The first generation was as pictired (the photo of a white sedan with black bumpers), the second generation had a more conventional look, perhaps similar to a contemporary Toyota Tercel, and then the third generation combined visual elements of the first two designs. When the change from second to third generation occured I don't know.

I do know, however, that for the sedans (and likely the coupes and wagons) the changeover from 1st to 2nd generation took two model years, with the interior changing first, and then the exterior. The 1995 model year sedans had a first generation exterior with a second generation interior (perhaps the biggest difference was the removal of the automatic seatbelts in favor of passenger side airbags, but there was a slightly more finished look to other parts of the interior also. Unfortunately, I don't have any reference for this...

And, I think that in its last years, the coupe had four doors, or two and two half doors, if you prefer, with suicide-type doors on both sides. --Badger151 07:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oops - I saw a 2002 S series coupe today and it only had three doors, so I guess it never was a two and two-half door car --Badger151 23:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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You are correct on the existance of a 3rd generation of S-Series for all models. The generations are as follows:

Sedan/Wagon: 1st - 1991-1995 2nd - 1996-1999 3rd - 2000-2002

Coupe 1st - 1991-1996 2nd - 1997-2000 3rd - 2001-2002

You can see that the coupe generation changes occur a year after the sedan/wagon generation changes. Interior refreshes occurred for model years 1995 and 2000. The article incorrectly states that the interior was refreshed in 1999 at the same time as the 3rd door addition to the coupe. I personally own a 1999 3-door coupe with the 2nd gen interior, further proof that the interior change did not occur until the 2000 model year.

The 1st to 2nd generation change was more substatial than the 2nd to 3rd. The 2nd and 3rd generation cars share the same space frame/roof construction, and essentially only differ by having different body panels and interior parts bolted on.

The coupe received a minor refresh within the 1st generation - the '95-'96 models have a different lower facia and trunk lid reflector.

You are correct that the S-Series coupe never had mini-doors on both sides - it was only ever a 2 or 3 door coupe. The Ion introduced the "Quad Coupe" with mini-doors on both sides.

Also, the TBI (throttle-body injection) SOHC engine was the LK0 ('91-'94), while the MPFI (multi-port fuel injection) SOHC is the L24 ('95-'02).

Thought I should also note that the change from OBDI to OBDII occurred for the '96 model year.

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I made a number of changes to the page, let me know if there are any errors, or go ahead & fix them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:PurdueGuy (talk • contribs)

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I would explain (or Wikilink) those OBDs, I have no idea what they are. I would also Wikilink the engines in the body too, not everybody is wise enough to check the infobox. Free photos for generation II and III would be great and shouldn't be hard to obtain. Regards, Bravada, talk - 20:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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Anyone look at the Theft section recently? Sounds more like a personal comment than an entry in an encyclopedia...

I live near lynnwood and that does sound like something the police would say. Worth nothing that ANY car without an electronic lockout can be used with a filed blank, since a filed blank is EXACTLY what a key copying machine found in any hardware store makes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.135.192.101 (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not at all convinced that the 2000-01 model year changes can be called a new generation. Platform is the same, main body is the same, engines are mostly the same. I see mostly a facelift plus an interior redesign, which for most other cars is considered a mid-cycle refresh. I'm adding a discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles as I'm concerned discussion here will be limited to the forum fans who made these changes. --Vossanova o&lt; 15:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Weird kilometrage
The article says "5.9 L/100 km"... is this the usual way to write it? I suppose it should be kilometers per litre. --Stormwatch (talk) 06:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Answer(Somebody from Europe) This is way they measure the consumption back in Europe(How many liters it "sucks" for 100km). It was hard for me to get adapted at the american style(miles/gallon or how many miles you can drive with 1 gallon of gas)