Talk:Sayyid Abubakr bin Shaikh Al-Kaff

A fact from Sayyid Abubakr bin Shaikh Al-Kaff appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 July 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Harold Ingrams said that Yemeni philanthropist Sayyid Abubakr bin Shaikh Al-Kaff could be an embarrassment for wanting Hadhramaut to be ruled by the British like Singapore?

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The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Harold Ingrams said that Yemeni philanthropist Sayyid Abubakr bin Shaikh Al-Kaff could be an embarrassment due to him wanting Hadhramaut to be ruled by the British like Singapore? Source: ^[1]
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Created by Sahaib (talk). Self-nominated at 09:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sayyid Abubakr bin Shaikh Al-Kaff; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

The article is new and long enough and the photograph appears not to have any copyright issues. However, the fact mentioned in the hook is debatable. The hook states that he knelt but did not bow before Elizabeth II. The Al Jazeera and PBS citations support this. However, the al-Bab citation states that he was exempted from kneeling on religious grounds and the source for the image states that "Perhaps the English language does not have the necessary precision to describe the posture satisfactorily." Besides, his posture during the knighting ceremony is hardly the most interesting thing about the man. The hook therefore ought to be dropped. Also, some of the sentences are too closely worded to the original sources and needs rephrasing. Ashwin147 (talk) 12:42, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ashwin147:, I have added a hook. (Also in the book, his name is spelt "Seiyid Bubakr bin Sheikh al-Kaf", if you can't find mentions of him) Sahaib (talk) 13:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @Sahaib and Ashwin147: From history of this page User:Sahaib seems to have redacted previous hook and provided new one. I hope I am not having any misunderstanding. To my knowledge, once some one comments on your posting, usually, we do not delete or replace or redact such content but ~~strike out to show cancellation of own content~~. If at all content is redacted in very serious cases then write (Redacted) in bracket but do not write new content in the same place once some one comments on your post. Start your new post/ DYK after the comment of respondent. This is my understanding. Other users may help guide User:Sahaib appropriately. Bookku (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- - The citation checks out on this claim. Good to go now. Ashwin147 (talk) 06:33, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Ingrams, Harold (1942). Arabia and the Isles. p. 19. Retrieved 28 May 2023.

[1] Ingrams, Harold (1942). Arabia and the Isles. p. 19. Retrieved 28 May 2023.

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