Talk:Sci Fiction

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Not defunct
It doesn't appear to be defunct http://SciFiction.com

-- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * : http://SciFiction.com is a different site that is unrelated to http://www.scifi.com that had been hosting Sci Fiction. At present www.scifi.com redirects to http://www.syfy.com/scifi which offers video content.  This article is about the short story "print" content that was curated and published by Ellen Datlow at http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/


 * There is a message on http://SciFiction.com with:
 * About this site
 * SciFiction.com has a rich history as a Hugo and Nebula award-winning SciFi literary project formerly owned by the SyFy Channel, and is now set to become the premiere destination for all things SciFi and beyond! SciFiction.com showcases geek-chic news, reviews, interviews, events and articles, and publishes the works of relevant artists and authors. SciFiction.com has over 60 thousand subscribers and is presently negotiating contracts with numerous top Hollywood studios to showcase and promote film and television projects along with exclusive actor interviews and behind the scenes journalism.


 * We are now getting into muddy territory. The old Sci Fiction at http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ seems to have been notable or at least I don't see any attempts to delete this Wikipedia article on lack of notability grounds. This article makes the unsupported claim "At one time, it was the leading online science fiction magazine." Let's assume that was true and that the topic is notable.


 * http://SciFiction.com claims to have a relationship to the old Sci Fiction but it has none of the old stories previously hosted by Sci Fiction. http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ redirects to http://www.syfy.com/scifi and not http://SciFiction.com. The new site is using the name "SciFiction.com" in its content without a space where the old content was under "Sci Fiction" with a space hosted by SciFi.com.


 * I suspect what we should do is to create a new article at SciFiction.com if, and only if, the topic is notable. As they seem to be unrelated efforts the new article can't WP:COATRACK content from/about Sci Fiction in an effort to be a notable topic.


 * At present there is a redirect from the Wikipedia topic Scifiction.com to Sci Fiction. There's no explanation for why this was added and so we don't know if it was added to deal with user confusion or if perhaps the scifi.com people also owned the scifiction.com domain name and had redirected it to http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ If an article about SciFiction.com is added then I'd change the Scifiction.com article to either be a WP:DAB that references both the new article and this one or is a straight redirect to the new article which can also to this one. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 19:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

List of Sci Fiction short stories is not complete
At present the section "List of Sci Fiction short stories" lists
 * 24 stories under "Originals" that appeared in the year 2000.
 * 114 stories under "Classics" that appeared from May 2000 to to December 2005.

I see several issues with this:
 * 1) Are these lists useful?  I'll assume so as many of the entries are wiki-linked to articles about the stories and/or their authors.
 * 2) The "Originals" list is incomplete in that it only covers the year 2000. About 200 original stories appeared in the webzine from 2001 through 2005 that are not mentioned/included in the article.
 * 3) The "Originals" list for the year 2000 was incomplete as was missing two stories. I've added these:
 * 4) * The Far Oasis by Jeffrey Ford published on October 25, 2000
 * 5) * Chip Crockett's Christmas Carol by Elizabeth Hand published on December 6, 2000
 * 6) The "Classics" list needs story-by-story double-checking as a list I constructed using one of the archived copies of the site lists 103 stories under "Classics".

As a full list from 2000 to 2005 would have over 300 stories I'm thinking we should show only what appeared in the year 2000 to give readers of this article a sense of what the webzine contained. It would allow us to keep the existing list of original stories, we'd delete the table rows for classic stories for the years 2001 to 2005, and would need to make sure the list for the year 2000 is accurate. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 21:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I support Marc's proposals, which seem reasonable. It would be good to have a complete list of the SciFiction stories available. --Pete Tillman (talk) 21:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)