Talk:Seven Nation Army

Earlier video?
I'm pretty sure there was an earlier SNA video where a different video effect was used to repeat Meg and her drum set all over the screen in various scenes. Anyone know where I can view that one? --J. J. 19:41, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thats not SNA its Hardest Button to Button

Yeah, JJ. There is only one Seven Nation Army video. The one that you are talking about is Hardest Button to Button from the same album. The video is probably on YouTube or Google Videos. It might also be on Yahoo! Music. --S-MAN

Why the heck?
Why the heck did we delete my category? That was a damn good category with time well spent. --S-man 22:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics
I'm just wondering why the lyrics of the song aren't posted on this wiki or any other wiki based on a single. I don't know if it's some copyright issue but I'm just wondering.

Because it's dumb.

Lyrics aren't usually posted on Wikipedia, except for certain reasons such as in The Trial by Pink Floyd. Also, unless there is a lyrics sheet put out by the artist, they tend to be wrong and generate controversy. Plus, it looks kinda un-encyclopedic FinalWish 00:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Info on "fan chant"
While I concur with reverting the information by 212.34.164.166 for now since it was uncited, I wonder if the information regarding the spread of the "fan chant"-version of SNA should not be included, I've been to a couple of German grounds this year and there was virtually no match where I didn't hear the Seven Nation Army-riff being sung. Furthermore I've also read the story of the Roma fans bringing the song along from Belgium, so should we include this once there is a citable source on this or is that too much unnecessary information. --Jinxo 13:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

"Peppy On The Pooper"
is not a b-side, so I removed it.

Similar to the Cure's "Subway Song?"
I removed this comment because the "bass" line is not really similar to "Subway Song" at all; at least certainly not similar enough to be note worthy. Saying otherwise is merely an isolated opinion, not a belief that is widely supported by rock critics and the like.
 * I think that the signature riff is almost identical.--Timtak (talk) 22:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Audioslave
I think the word "live" should be taken out in the line "The band has been known to perform a cover of this song in their live concerts" because isn't that just redundant? I mean, all concerts are, essentially, live. --DancexwithxmexXx 14:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It's gone. Martpol 09:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

7 Nation army or Seven?
I am unsure, the article says the single said "7". --69.92.47.74 03:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Whether or not you write out the number, there should be a hyphen in it. It's a 7-nation army (or seven-nation...) 199.3.21.242 (talk) 23:56, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

A Perfect Circle
Can someone give me a source about APC's cover of this song? I can't find any. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.219.130.242 (talk) 11:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

What Key?
Does anyone know what key this song is in? I know wikipedia tends to have that on a lot of songs, why not this one?

It is in the key of E. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.131.127.40 (talk) 17:30, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Lights that sing?
10 November change by 68.84.239.23 seems to make no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.96.36 (talk) 04:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Inspired by Bruckner's fifth symphony?
I cannot hear any resemblance between Seven Nation Army and Bruckner’s fifth symphony. The only sites suggesting such a connection simply copy and paste the first paragraph of this article. Stanislao Avogadro (talk) 00:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll tag the claim as needing a citation.--RDavi404 (talk) 01:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The similarity is to the main theme of the Allegro section of the first movement (it returns in the last movement as well), played first by the violas and cellos at measure 55 (just after rehearsal letter B) of the 1878 edition, which begins Bb Db Bb Ab Gb F, exactly the same melody as the Seven Nation Army riff. However, I cannot find a source for the claim that the resemblance is intentional. Dfan (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Marcus Collins cover version
Recently there has been a dispute about whether or not the Marcus Collins cover version should have its own section and infobox or whether it should be mentioned with the other cover versions, so I am starting a discussion here.

The article is about the song and all notable cover versions of the song, not just the original version of the song. Most song articles on Wikipedia that have notable cover versions have sections and infoboxes for those versions in the articles. By charting on four national charts and having numerous reliable sources, Marcus Collins's cover version is a notable cover version and if it was an original song it would have its own article passing both WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. From what I can tell reading the article, none of the cover versions are notable or would pass WP:NSONG if they were original songs. By reducing the cover version down to a single sentence you lose all the information about the cover version which makes it notable. The size of the section should not be a reason since it is only one sixth of the article.

Since the discussion has been started and the information has been in the article since February 2012, it should stay in the article unless there is a consensus to remove the information. Aspects (talk) 20:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The size of the piece is the discussion, precisely because it is one sixth of the article. The claim that it charted in four countries is pretty irrelevant if you examine that claim - no.51 in Ireland is barely noteworthy, and neither is no.9 in Scotland as the UK position is given (it seems to be clutching at straws). If it was condensed to two/three lines, or given its own paragraph, in the cover version section, then it wouldn't be an issue, but it is given far too much space for its relevance - as shown by the use of song in popular culture, which all stem from the White Stripes' original version (in Europe they were generally adopted prior to the covers' release, and in the US, the cover gained little to no exposure).


 * As I pointed out, songs like All Saints' cover of Under the Bridge (which reached no.1 in the UK) aren't given that prominence in their respective article. DoubleDoubleDouble (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The size of the piece should not really be the discussion since you did not even mention it until the third time you deleted the section and if it is, then being one sixth of the article, mostly in coding, is not given that much space. Also pointing out one example of a notable cover version not having its own section and infobox actually works against you because I can turn around and show you that most notable cover versions have their own sections and infoboxes.  Also that version is a particularly bad example because the main information is located at "Under the Bridge / Lady Marmalade", where it should not be since this is two cover versions and should be listed in both "Under the Bridge" (where it is not located) and "Lady Marmalade" (where it is located).  Since "Under the Bridge" is a featured article I am going to add some merge templates instead of completing the merge myself. Aspects (talk) 16:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

The White Stripes Are An Alternative Band??
I already commented on the Alternative Rock page about this – IMHO, The White Stripes and a number of other bands called "Alternative" are not. Therefore, I deleted a large section on the Alt Rock page about that; and I'm deleting that reference from this page. Damienivan (talk) 19:27, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Removed album art for cover versions
Just letting everyone know — I removed the following images, per this discussion on NFCR. We concluded that the non-free use rationale for those images was insufficient, since the recordings themselves are of questionable notability (i.e., not discussed much in the article beyond their chart performance) and because the article does not specifically discuss the album art for the covers. This decision was made with WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC in mind. If you disagree with this choice, feel free to discuss either on this talk page, my talk page, or the NFCR page.


 * File:SevenNationArmy.jpg
 * File:Seven-Nation-Army-by Ben-loncle-soul.jpg

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Song Meaning
What does the song mean?--Timtak (talk) 23:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Restructuring "Sporting events" section
I've restructured the "Sporting events" section, as it was in need of some cleanup: it was getting quite long, and it was more a list of instances in which the song was used in sporting events rather than an encyclopedic overview of its usage in sporting events. I did my best to work most of the noted appearances of the song into prose; however, I could not find reliable sources for each instance, and besides, not every appearance of the song needs to be (or should be) included in an encyclopedic overview of the song's usage in sporting events. I believe this structure is much easier to read and gives a clearer overview of the history of its usage in sports. It should be noted that even for instances that were included, I've removed many details that I believe are unnecessary. It should also be noted that the Bayern Munich's use of the song is no longer mentioned in this section, as I could not find a reliable source for it, so I'll probably remove the image of the Allianz Arena soon (and, ideally, replace it with another one—I think a free image of a 2018 FIFA World Cup crowd would work well here). Thanks, Hadger (talk) (contribs) 10:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Mondegreen
> He misheard "The Salvation Army" as "The Seven Nation Army".

I think a link to Mondegreen should be included there Geirhau (talk) 12:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Done but feel free to be bold.  Rob van  vee  12:28, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Formula One: Sergio Perez
This song has been used as a chant for Mexican Formula One driver Sergio Perez, at least in Mexico City, wherein it was sung as “Ho, Checo sabroso” 2601:409:4100:9370:54E6:19AF:63B1:9256 (talk) 00:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)