Talk:Seven Years' War

I whould like to apoligize
I have disrupted lots of constructive editing. I should of resolved the conflict better. Although i still think some of the editing is opinanted, but í should of simply resolved the conflict by working it out. If anything, I’m the vandal here and í take full responsibility. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Nah, because you were trying to help, and on Wikipedia we only call people acting in bad faith vandals. Live and learn! :) Remsense  诉  15:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 16:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok
So, there has been lots of debate on this article why the Aceh Sultanate is on here, but í think í found a source. The Aceh rebels have a source cited, so í think the Aceh Sultanate whould also be mentioned. The Source it sites is a Book called the Dictonary of Wars, on Pg. 417. So, if anyone has the Book, please check that page. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 16:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The point was not that they were not involved at all, the point was that their involvement was not important to a summary explanation of the conflict, which is what an infobox is supposed to be for. We shouldn't list every polity, commander, and nuance—sometimes, that can't even be justified in the article body, never mind the infobox. Remsense  诉  16:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ók, then, what does Wikipedia classify as a belliegrent? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter. Aceh was not important in this conflict. Remsense  诉  17:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * How unimportant was it? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 17:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Unimportant enough that you have to go to page 417 of The Dictionary of Wars to find a citation to that effect. Again, coverage on Wikipedia is proportional to coverage in sources.  Remsense  诉  17:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Here's what I've been saying each time but want to do so again: an infobox is meant to summarize the body of the article, not provide all the information in the article. You know how many times Aceh is presently mentioned in the article? Zero. So this is a non-starter, we have to agree that a paragraph on Aceh's participation is due in the article first, then we can think about whether they might fit into the infobox. Remsense  诉  18:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, í agree with you. Same with the Filoipino rebels. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Why?
Why where the French and Indian War and Indian front belligerents removed? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 01:29, 11 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Given that the French and Indian War started two years earlier and was largely a separate conflict from other theaters, it seems like it might make sense to keep it to its own article as far as the infobox is concerned. That seems to be the gist of @Robinvp11's edit summary at least, and in this case it makes sense to me. Remsense  诉  03:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * French and Indian War where still part of the conflict, it’s what started it. But, even if you do think that, what about the Indian Front with The Mughal Empire? And The Phillipenes? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * And the Kalymk Khanate was removed. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Once again, not mentioned in the article itself. Remsense  诉  15:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * They were the same war in the broadest sense, but histories of the conflict really don't tell them as one story. The point being once again, that we need to add it to the article before we add it to the infobox. Remsense  诉  15:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ók then, í agree. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is an entire section in the article on both. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Right, and the figures that are mentioned in those sections (like George Washington) are also in the infobox. Remsense  诉  15:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Your point? Blackmamba31248 (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I've re-added the Iroquois Confederacy, the Algonquin Wabanaki Confederacy, and the Mughal Empire back to the infobox, since they are mentioned in the article (and deserve to be there, in my mind obviously) Remsense  诉  15:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * What are the Flags of Wbanaki and Bengal Subdah called I’m trying to add them Blackmamba31248 (talk) 20:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * None of the three states in question had anything resembling a "national flag", that's why I didn't add them. Flag abuse is another big problem on Wikipedia, and the mindset should be the same: "putting nothing is better than misrepresenting the past by insisting there should be something" Remsense  诉  20:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Bengal Subdah had a flag. The Wabanaki did not have a flag, but it does have a banner called the Wampa banner. But you’re right. Most of the Naitve Amercian belligerents had no Flags. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, of course the Mugals had a flag. Here is the page talking about them
 * Flags of the Mughal Empire Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * But yes, í do agree with you with flag abuse. For example, when including the Cherokee nation ín a war in the 1700s, you can’t include a flag in the infobox, because even if they have a flag now, they didn’t back then. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 00:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ah, i wasn't sure and thought i had doublechecked, that seems fine then  Remsense  诉  01:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Blackmamba31248, per the recent addition: in addition to the sourcing issue, this is also one of the struggles of writing a tertiary source: a lot of content we like might be minor and not due for inclusion. This article is currently too long, but I'm not sure this is worth a mention even at this length, unfortunately. Remsense  诉  03:47, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is ðretty minor. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 22:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Russia in Infobox
Russia is listed on both sides, both saying until 1672, but the left side for some reason has a note attached reading 'from 1672'. From my little research into this war it seems that Russia stopped fighting entirely in 1672, but I think the infobox should be clearer. Wikifan153 (talk) 09:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Yeah, who did that?
 * I would remove Russia from the Anglo-Prussian side entirely. Remsense  诉  09:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would remove Russia from the Anglo-Prussian side entirely. Remsense  诉  09:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)