Talk:Sleep sex

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Disorder
Is it fair to call this a disorder? Aren't mild forms rather common? Bill shannon 2001

For an October 2004 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Sleep sex

Surely this is a joke page?--Honeycake 17:17, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3744226.stm


 * No - it is a real, abeit rare, occurance. See

Sleeping Woman Bedded Strangers Doctor Says Woman Has Sleep-Sex Disorder

No not a Joke but extremely real, albeit my legal case has been running prior to most articles talking about this!! :-( But the sleepsex.org is a good beginning and there is also a group on yahoo groups who deal with this matter!! I am still looking around for some info on this as I do not take lightly to being called a sexual aggressor!!

Jaime 04:27, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm commenting anonymously, but I agree with Jaime. This is real, as I can state from my own experience as a sufferer until around a year ago, when the behaviour stopped. I have no difficulty believing that a sufferer might be capable of rape while asleep.

As an aside, while asleep I have also left the house, spoken to people, made food, eaten and drank, and once pushed a 1.5 metre bookshelf over onto a lamp, all without waking. My family has a history of epilepsy and sleepwalking.

Both sexomnia and sexsomnia seem to be in common usage, although I'd wager a guess that sexsomnia is more correct based on the root (omni -> everywhere/universal, somnia -> sleep).

This is a real behavioral pattern that some people suffer from, although I'll leave it up to the experts to define whether it is a disorder.

Opalmirror 18:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Sexomnia is just wrong! Jack Hawkins legal academic &#38; Times reader (talk) 10:58, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't think I had to check with anyone that I should remove "These acts may be injurious to themselves or others, as in the case of a man who not only bruised himself with sleeping masturbation, but broke two fingers trying to escape restraints in which he had placed himself to control the behavior." because it was cited without a reference. There are lots of cases where patients with parasomnias may harm or attempt to harm themselves or their partners, and they can all be given with a reference. This just seems like a non-sequitur joke, like that time I walked in on Paul Reubens. (Warrenreport 10:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

SVU reference is incorrect. The character suffering from sexsomnia was not responsible for the murder of his girlfriend. 24.98.197.169 (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok im new 2 wiki so please help me if i have done this wrong im pretyy sure i suffer from this as i have been awoken by my partner 3 times for this i have done it again since then this time realy causeing my relationship alot of stress and also have had police involved i am now asking for anyone who has been treated for this for there advice on where to go and what should i ask for thanks heaps Ineedhelpplease (talk) 10:09, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Sexsomnia and alcohol - stating that sexsomnia can be triggered by excessive alcohol consumption is a very dangerous statement to make, and I worry about the effect of this on drunken rapists looking for a defenc Jack Hawkins legal academic &#38; Times reader (talk) 10:29, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

I think the disorder should be defined in terms of symptoms and treatment plans. I think there also needs to be real life cases of people with sleep sex added into the article to pull from, not only to add interest but to maybe make it seem like a more serious subject matter.

Another article
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22209032-5006003,00.html

Cleanup
There is little article and too much lead. Needs to be substantially reworked.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Requested citation for the neuromuscular reference. No cited sources indicate any such link.--User:The_Caveat18:06, 27 Sept 2007 (UTC)

Sleep sex may be a recently identified condition, but it can hardly be a "new type of parasomnia".203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Redirection
I'm curious - if "sexsomnia" is the official term and "sleep sex" is the laymen's term, why does sexsomnia redirect here instead of the other way around? Oughtn't this be filed under it's proper heading? Zelbinian (talk) 09:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, "Sexsomnia" probably redirects to "Sleep sex" for the same reason that "Somnambulism" redirects to "Sleepwalking". I think the article is suppose to located at the most commonly used term (for example, alot of people have never even heard the word "Somnambulism", but everyone knows the term "Sleepwalking"). MasterGreenLantern (talk) 20:57, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Sexsomniac Statutory Rape?
This link (footnote 6) is dead: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/story/0,22049,22209032-5006003,00.html

Is the link misspelled? Or is there another link to the same story?

A sleep sex disorder being used successfully as a defense in a case of statutory rape would be remarkable indeed, and certainly worthy of mention in this article, but at the moment it is a non-verifiable claim.--65.212.104.138 (talk) 20:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC) :} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.220.29 (talk) 18:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, most (maybe all, I haven't checked) of the references to rape in this article are misconceived. A person suffering from sexsomnia cannot commit rape (or any other crime) because they are not acting voluntarily. For this purpose, there is no difference between so-called statutory rape and the rape of a person above the age of consent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.142.249.81 (talk) 22:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Sexsomnia has been used as a defence to accusations of sexual abuse of minors. Jack Hawkins legal academic &#38; Times reader (talk) 10:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I think there needs to be more cases added to this article and that the legal side of handling something like this should also be added — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelsea.keys97 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Family members, friends or strangers?
I removed this sentence from the article. It provides no information (essentially it says that when people have sex with someone in their sleep, they do it with anyone else at all). Also, I did a Google search on the site that that section cites, and noen of those words are used on any of it's 8 pages, all of which are indexed by Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.217.121 (talk) 19:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Really?
There have been reports of men injuring themselves during sadistic masturbation acts or humping metal or brick walls.

... You can't be serious? 70.109.186.157 (talk) 03:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment re Stephen Davies
The section re Stephen Davies should be removed, as the accused in that case complained to the Press Complaints Commission that he wasn't exonerated on the basis of sexsomnia, and his complaint was upheld - so this statement is potentially defamatory. Jack Hawkins legal academic &#38; Times reader (talk) 11:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Ireland
in a current case in Ireland, a jury failed to reach a verdict of rape due to the defendant applying sexomnia (for which he has been diagnosed as suffering from) as his defence. See Here2A02:8084:2860:3A80:656B:ED86:B886:C9B7 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Capitalization?
In the "DSM-5 criteria" section, is there a reason the diagnoses have the first word, but no others, capitalized? I'm not familiar with any such pattern being used in English. IAmNitpicking (talk) 01:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

PSG
I'm wanting to add more about PSG and how it can be particularly sensitive in legal situations/proceedings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdaniels26 (talk • contribs) 12:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

intro info
Adding that sexsomnia is most often diagnosed in boys beginning in adolescence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdaniels26 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Sex offenders and Sexsomnia (Sex Offender Controversies section)
If a person commits what would otherwise be a sex offense under sexsonia then there is no mens rea and thus they did not willingly commit such an act. As such, it would be inappropriate to label them sex offenders if they re not legally guilty of being a sex offender per the defense of sexsomnia as the term "sex offender" carries with it the notion that the person was either previously convicted of a sex crime or at least has publicly admitted to KNOWINGLY committing such a crime even if they have yet to be convicted, if ever. As such, I change the language in the section about sexsomnia being a possible defense to sex crime charges in some instances to reflect that those who successfully used said defense are not "sex offenders" in usual sense since their is an adsense of intent. Notcharliechaplin (talk) 21:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)