Talk:Socorro Island

"Inocentes"?
Original text had:

No evidence of human habitation on Socorro exists before its discovery by Spanish explorers. Hernando de Grijalva and his crew discovered an uninhabited island on December 21, 1533 and named it "Santo Tomé" (Spanish, "Saint Thomas"). In 1542, Ruy González de Villalobos, while exploring new routes across the Pacific, rediscovered "Inocentes" and changed its name to "Anublada" ("Cloudy")

Revillagigedo Islands has:

No evidence of human habitation on the Revillagigedo Islands exists before its discovery by Spanish explorers. Hernando de Grijalva and his crew discovered an uninhabited island on December 21, 1533 and named it "Santo Tomás". Four days later he discovered another, which he named "Inocentes" ("Innocents").

In 1542, Ruy López de Villalobos, while exploring new routes across the Pacific, rediscovered "Inocentes" and changed its name to "Anublada" ("Cloudy").

"Inocentes" may refer to Holy Innocents' Day, which would have been Dec 28th. I have changed it so it makes sense. Things to do:


 * check whether "Santo Tomás" or "Santo Tomé" is correct for San Benedicto Island
 * Should be "San(to) Tomás". "San" is simply shorthand. Formally correct is "Santo Tomás" and "San Benedicto"; they do not seem to have been called otherwise. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 23:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * check whether de Grijalva stayed at Inocentes for 3 days or so, thus making the name plausible (Dec 21 is Saint Thomas' Day) Dysmorodrepanis 20:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Origin of modern name?
Perhaps from Nuestra Señora de Perpétuo Socorro, an avatar of Mary and possibly another day-saint. In which case it would be "Rescue". I have changed to that - a near-native speaker friend of mine tells me that socorro may mean "help" or "assistance" (or "rescue" for the matter), but that an island cannot act as a socorro in that sense; it implies aid given by some individual or a living entity. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Nuestra Señora de Perpétuo Socorro would more or less match the English Our Lady of Everlasting Help. I read Isla Socorro as Help Island, but the latter is not a published name for the island in English. Gwen Gale (talk) 12:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Socorro is Santo Tomás
According to Brand (referring "Relacion y Derrotero...por Hernando de Grijalva y el Piloto Martín de Acosta" in the Archivo General de Indias in Sevilla. Socorro was the first of the Revillagigedos encountered by Grijalva and charted by him as Santo Tomas. Nine days later, on December 28th he found "Los Inocentes" (San Benedicto). Check Brand's note 53 on p.370.It is also Santo Tomás in the Spanish Wikipedia (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Socorro)Mateo Flecha (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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population ?
Not consistent with the total population of the whole archipelago of Revillagigedo Islands... Wisdood (talk) 10:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)