Talk:Southwestern Mandarin

Is this verified?
"Huguang (湖广)" refers to the three provinces, Hubei, Hunan, Guangdong, and one autonomous region, Guangxi, of China. I have never heard of a category of "Southwestern madarin" as people in these different provinces and regions have different accents from one another. Is there any citation for this article? Pseudotriton 04:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * During the Qing Dynasty Huguang referred to Hubei and Hunan. And yes, it is most definitely a group of dialects.   White Whirlwind  咨   06:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Translation
 White Whirlwind  咨   06:14, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

A question
There are some things I don't understand here. Why does it say "Most Southwestern Mandarin dialects have, like Standard Mandarin, only retained four of the original eight tones of Middle Chinese." Who says Middle Chinese originally had eight tones? The Middle Chinese article says four, nor do I see eight tones in the Chinese version of this article. There was a split, but it came later and was not an original feature of Middle Chinese. Also, 'light level' is odd; if 陽 is light, what is 陰? High and low or upper and lower are more common. Rgr09 (talk) 08:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Later note: I see; you want dark for yin. This sort of etymologizing translation is not what most English language writing on the subject uses. Can you give an example of someone who uses this? If not, perhaps consider switching. Rgr09 (talk) 09:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

New Xiang?
Why is New Xiang included in the table and the map, if it is a subset of Xiang Chinese? The Verified Cactus 100% 21:15, 9 September 2017 (UTC)