Talk:Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Thatoneweirdwikier (talk · contribs) 17:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Going to be reviewing this article today. None of the quick fail criteria apply here, so let's go!

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Lede

 * "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is a 2018 American computer-animated superhero film featuring the..." Considering the context, I think there should be a comma between "film" and "featuring".
 * "It marks the directorial debut of Persichetti and Rothman. It stars the voices of..." Short sentences, in my opinion, don't work well in the lede. Merge the sentences.
 * "In the film, Miles Morales joins other Spider-Men from various dimensions who team up to save New York City from Kingpin." I think there should be more context as to who Kingpin is.
 * "The film required up to 140 animators, the largest crew used by Sony Pictures Animation." The second part of this sentence sounds off. I would remove it.
 * ✅ all. Rusted AutoParts  01:19, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Plot

 * There seem to be quite a few relinks in this.
 * Could you elaborate on this? Rusted AutoParts  01:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Words such as Miles Morales and Kingpin have been linked in this section, even though they were already linked in the lede. Thanks, Thatone weird wikier Say hi 05:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I feel this is a common thing that's occurred in other superhero related GA articles. Like Thor: Ragnarok. Rusted AutoParts  19:45, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Cast

 * The formatting is unconsistent here. Many of the cast members' descriptions are either not indented or have too much indentation. Some of them go to a new line to start the description; others just keep going on that line.
 * That's in part to certain characters having additional information added to their entry. This is another common situation with superhero film articles. Rusted AutoParts  19:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Development

 * "Miller said the film would feel different from previous Spider-Man films, and 'will stand on its own as a unique film-going experience. There is a change of tense here. I would change it to "Miller said the film would feel different from previous Spider-Man films, and would 'stand on its own as a unique film-going experience.
 * "Peter Ramsey was co-directing the film by that point." This sentence sounds informal.
 * "Lord described directors Ramsey as 'the action guy', Rothman as 'the comedy guy' and Persichetti as 'the poet. There is no citation here.
 * ✅ all. Rusted AutoParts  19:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Writing

 * "The first full cut of animatics and storyboards for the film was over two-hours long..." Remove the hyphen between "two" and "hours".
 * "Christina kept us honest, [a]s five boys making a movie, it was really good to have another filmmaker there going, 'I don’t think you guys want to do it like this. Here, the single and double quotation marks are formatted incorrectly. See MOS:QWQ.
 * ✅ all. I removed the second point's sentence altogether. Rusted AutoParts  19:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Casting

 * "Shameik Moore was cast as Miles Morales in April 2017, along with Liev Schreiber as the film's unspecified main villain." Change "the film's unspecified main villain" to "the film's then-unspecified main villain".
 * ✅ Rusted AutoParts  19:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Animation and design

 * "as well as visual effects for all prior Spider-Man films beforehand." Remove the word "beforehand".
 * "Rather than using animation principles like squash and stretch they came up with substitute versions of them; 'so that in texture and... Remove the semi-colon.
 * "Spider-Ham being designed as "cartoony" as possible." What is this quoting?
 * I find it's to highlight the different style of animation the character needed in comparison to the others. As "cartoony" as possible I find makes sense, though I could do it as "as cartoony as possible" too. Rusted AutoParts  19:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * "having worked on both the 2002 Spider-Man film and the first Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs film..." Here, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (CwaCofM) is linked. I think this may be WP:OVERLINKING as there is a link to the CwaCofM franchise a few lines back. More of a judgement call.
 * As it's the only time the film is linked in the article, I feel it fine to keep linked. Rusted AutoParts  19:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Release

 * "In April 2015, Sony had made its first official announcement that a new animated Spider-Man film was in development, with a scheduled release date for July 20, 2018. It would be the first animated Spider-Man feature film, and would be independent of the timelines of other Spider-Man universe films. At the end of 2015, the release date was changed to December 21, and was moved up by one week two years later." This repeats what has already been said. I would remove it.
 * I'm not sure if it does repeat what was said. It establishes it had been moved around several time prior to it's official release date. Rusted AutoParts  19:59, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Box office

 * "finishing first at the box office and marking the best-ever December opening..." Remove the hyphen between "best" and "ever".
 * "The weekend following its Best Animated Picture win..." Clarify what this is from.
 * ✅ all. Rusted AutoParts  20:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Critical response

 * "gave the film a rare average grade..." Remove "rare".
 * ✅ Rusted AutoParts  20:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This was some exceptionally awkward phrasing (SNAFU). The Cinemascore grade is an average of what each audience member gives as a score. It is rare to receive a A+ grade from Cinemascore.
 * Remove both words "rare average" or remove the word "average" because details of how the score is calculated is better explained in the Cinemascore article, and when reading quickly it can easily be misread to imply it that the A+ is somehow "average". I'm going to edit this to remove both words, even though I agree it is rare to get a grade A+ (because someone will probably quibble over how rare this actually is). -- 109.77.215.39 (talk) 05:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Final comments
Well done so far with this article! Going to review the refs in a couple of days. Thanks, Thatone weird wikier Say hi 19:30, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Regarding criterions 2a and 2b
Going to be reviewing the references now...

No problems that I could find! Going to add the tag now, well done! Thanks, Thatone weird wikier Say hi 20:09, 12 March 2020 (UTC)