Talk:St Andrews United F.C.

Requested move 8 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: To be moved. No opposition after a whole month of listing, and seems a valid move. Note: a hist merge is needed and for an admin to do the move. The nominator has agreed to do this once I have closed this. Thanks. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 18:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

St. Andrews United F.C. → St Andrews United F.C. – per the MOS, per common usage, and per the club's own website. Extended rationale below. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

In this case, the word "Saint" is abbreviated to its first and last letters: "St". That mostly produced churches, so I added the word football: "St. Andrews United" football. Still lots of churches, but the first 50 hits included 11 relating to this club. None of the 11 use a "dot" in "St.":, , , , , , , , , ,. I also searched on the websites of Scotland's 2 major broadcasters, BBC STV. No dots on the BBC, or on STV.tv
 * Extended rationale:
 * WP:Manual of Style: in standard British and Australian usage no stop is used if the abbreviation ends in the last letter of the unabbreviated form.
 * Common usage: per WP:AT, When using Google, generally a search of Google Books and News Archive should be defaulted to before a web search, as they concentrate reliable sources. So I searched Google News, using the  parameter to eliminate any personalised search bias: "St. Andrews United"
 * The clubs's own website http://www.standrews-utd.co.uk/ does not use the dot in "St" in its logo or headers, nor (AFAICS) in text.
 * In January, I requested renaming for 3 similar articles: St Cuthbert, St Johnstone, and St Mirren. The first 2 have been closed as "move", but the St Mirren RM is still open. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that the St Mirren discussion has been closed as "move". This is now the only Scottish football club to use "St." (with a dot) in in its title. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:41, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Support Agree that dots are rarely used in the St abbreviation. Number   5  7  17:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


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