Talk:Star Trek: Discovery season 3

3x02 Title
The Ready Room states that 3x02 is titled "Far From Home", as does RadioTimes, but Futon lists it as "That Hope Is You, Part 2". -- / Alex /21  04:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Very confusing, hopefully we can get some sort of explanation soon since they seem to be sticking with "That Hope Is You, Part 1" for the first episode. For now I think it would be fine to add "That Hope Is You, Part 2" as an alt title for the second episode and then just see what happens. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:18, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that for some weird reason your wiki does not accept Netflix as reliable source, so FYIO. Episode 1 appears as "Part 1", episode 2 does not appear at all, first time on my memory. Looks like they are confused too. IKhitron (talk) 12:29, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

This is a nonsense - you have a single source saying it has that title - every other RS does not use that name and CBS rolled out more media previews and information last night and not a single one uses that name. The weight of RS says this is NOT an alternative name for this episode or used in any official capacity. The Fulton Critic seems to have just assumed it would be called that. They do not even make reference to its correct name. Cameron Scott (talk) 07:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If you actually read TFC's press releases, such as this one, it very clearly states The following article is a press release issued by the aforementioned network and/or company. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information. So, no, TFC hasn't assumed anything. They get their content directly from the network. -- / Alex /21  08:21, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Except the press releases are publicly available - none of them use it - so currently we have:


 * Press releases from maker not using the name
 * Multiple reliable sources not using the name
 * A single source using it

Plus on ready room the official tie-in show that airs after Discovery they announced the title was... Far from Home.

It's baffling how that we can therefore conclude that the one single outlining source is the correct one.... Cameron Scott (talk) 10:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * It's identified here as an alternate title, not the only one. —ADavidB 15:07, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Futon has updated their listing to be "Far From Home". Seems likely that this was originally "That Hope Is You" Parts 1 and 2, and the second one was renamed but not the first for some reason. Hopefully we get some more info on that soon. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


 * So the source was a lot of bollocks as expressed above. It might need a look at more broadly because it's used here a lot but going off this their quality control is crap. Cameron Scott (talk) 14:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That is not true and completely unnecessary. I don't know what your problem is but that tone is not appropriate for Wikipedia. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , continue to talk to other editors like this and you will be reported to WP:AN, it's that simple. If you're not here to discuss in a civil manner, you can leave. Clearly the title is valid as an alternate title, as TFC is used on over 6,000 articles and gets their content direct from the network; your opinion against that is irrelevant. -- / Alex /21  22:19, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Feel free - given unless I've missed something not a single one of my posts refer to editors or make refer to editors I'm not sure why they would be interested - in summary my contributions here are:


 * This is the only source to say this and thus given undue weight - it's bollocks
 * It's still only the source to say this and thus why are we giving it undue wright? - it's still bollocks
 * It was the only the only source to say this and it is now changed to match reality - it was bollocks. Cameron Scott (talk) 09:49, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have an actual response to that, but clearly you're WP:NOTHERE with your minimal contributions. Carry on. Cheers. -- / Alex /21  11:02, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Star Trek: Discovery (season 3)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Star Trek: Discovery (season 3)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "RTS2": From Star Trek: Discovery:  From Star Trek: Discovery (season 2):  

Reference named "MCS2": From Star Trek: Discovery:  From Star Trek: Discovery (season 2):  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:42, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Guest cast for the season
Keeping track of the guest cast to help determine who is recurring as well as credit order: - adamstom97 (talk) 08:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * 301
 * Adil Hussain as Aditya Sahil 301 303 313
 * Nicole Dickinson as Hadley 301 Strong regulator 312
 * Riley Gilchrist as Andorian regulator 301 303
 * Julianne Grossman as Sanctuary voice 301 Discovery computer 304 306 307 309 313
 * Brandon McGibbon as Ithyk the Andorian 301
 * Jake Michaels as Ithor the Orion 301
 * Fabio Tassone as Book's ship computer 301 303 308 311 312
 * David Benjamin Tomlinson as Cosmo Traitt 301 Linus the Saurian 302 303 304 306 308 Kelpien servant 309 Young Su'Kal 313
 * Hussain; Dickinson, Gilchrist, Grossman, McGibbon, Michaels, Tassone, Tomlinson

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 * 302
 * Michelle Yeoh as Philippa Georgiou 302 303 304 305 306 308 309 310
 * Tig Notaro as Jett Reno 302 305 310 311 313
 * Jake Weber as Zareh 302 312 313
 * Emily Coutts as Lt. Keyla Detmer 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313
 * Patrick Kwok-Choon as Lt. Gen Rhys 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313
 * Oyin Oladejo as Lt. Joann Owosekun 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313
 * Ronnie Rowe Jr. as Lt. R.A. Bryce 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313
 * Sara Mitich as Lt. Nilsson 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 313
 * Wole Daramola as Red Eyes (Heavy) 302
 * Raven Dauda as Dr. Tracy Pollard 302 304 308 311 313
 * Kevan Karse as Lookout 302
 * Jonathan Koensgen as Kal 302
 * Lindsay Owen Pierre as Os'ir the Bartender 302
 * Sanjay Pavone as Ensign Hazmat 302
 * Yeoh, Notaro, Weber; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Daramola, Dauda, Karse, Koensgen, Pierre, Pavone, Tomlinson

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 * 303
 * Blu del Barrio as Adira Tal 303 304 305 306 308 309 310 311 313
 * Christopher Heyerdahl as Wen 303
 * Phumzile Sitole as Ndoye 303
 * Kenneth Welsh as Senna Tal 303 304
 * Fode Bangoura as alien merchant 303
 * Shawn Campbell as supervising inspector 303
 * Xavier Lopez as passing crew member 303
 * Yeoh, Barrio, Heyerdahl, Hussain, Sitole, Welsh; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Bangoura, Campbell, Gilchrist, Lopez, Tassone, Tomlinson

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 * 304
 * Ian Alexander as Gray Tal 304 306 311 313
 * Andreas Apergis as Guardian Xi 304
 * Karen Robinson as Leader Pav 304 313
 * Andrew Shaver as Commissioner Vos 304
 * Annabelle Wallis as Zora 304 312 313
 * Elana Dunkelman as Discovery engineer #1 304
 * Christine Nguyen as Discovery engineer #2 304
 * Yeoh, Alexander, Apergis, Barrio, Robinson, Shaver, Wallis, Welsh; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Grossman, Dauda, Dunkelman, Nguyen, Tomlinson

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 * 305
 * Oded Fehr as Charles Vance 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313
 * David Cronenberg as Kovich 305 309 313
 * Brendan Beiser as Eli 305 312
 * Jake Epstein as Dr. Attis 305
 * Vanessa Jackson as Lt. Audrey Willa 305 306 312 313
 * Ana Sani as Mom 305
 * Ava McKinnon as Daughter #1 305
 * Shazdeh Kapadia as Daughter #2 305
 * RJ Parrish as Holo Security officer #1 305
 * Vanessa Burns as Holo Security officer #2 305
 * Chris Zamat as Holo officer #1 305
 * Jajube Mandiela as Holo officer #2 305
 * Daniel Woodrow as Holo officer #3 305
 * Shannon Lahaie as Tactical officer 305
 * Rosie Simon as Starfleet Ensign 305
 * Yeoh, Fehr, Barrio, Cronenberg, Notaro; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Beiser, Epstein, Jackson, Sani, McKinnon, Kapadia, Parrish, Burns, Zamat, Mandiela, Woodrow, Lahaie, Simon

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 * 306
 * Noah Averbach-Katz as Ryn 306 308 312
 * Ian Lake as Tolor 306 308
 * Avaah Blackwell as Captain Rahma 306 Lt. Ina 311 312 313
 * Daniel Jun as Lai 306
 * Danijel Mandic as Salvage Regulator 306
 * Antonio Ortega as Engineer 306
 * Linford Mark Robinson as Captain L'Teis Kardashev 306
 * Katherine Trowell as Captain Bandra 306
 * Yeoh, Fehr, Alexander, Averbach-Katz, Barrio, Lake; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Grossman, Blackwell, Jackson, Jun, Mandic, Ortega, Robinson, Tomlinson, Trowell

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 * 307
 * Sonja Sohn as Gabrielle Burnham 307
 * Oliver Becker as N'Raj 307
 * Stephanie Belding as Shira 307
 * Emmanuel Kabongo as V'Kir 307
 * Tara Rosling as President T'Rina 307 313
 * Fehr, Sohn; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Grossman, Becker, Belding, Kabongo, Rosling

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 * 308
 * Ache Hernandez as Kyheem 308
 * Janet Kidder as Osyraa 308 311 312 313
 * Ross Carter as Lt. Haj 308
 * Luca Doulgeris as Leto 308
 * Jhaleil Swaby as San 308
 * Yeoh, Fehr, Averbach-Katz, Barrio, Hernandez, Kidder, Lake; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Carter, Dauda, Doulgeris, Tassone, Tomlinson, Swaby

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 * 309
 * Hannah Cheesman as Airiam 309 310
 * Paul Guilfoyle as the Guardian of Forever 309 310
 * Rekha Sharma as Ellen Landry 309 310
 * Hannah Spear as Dr. Issa 309 313
 * Yeoh, Fehr, Barrio, Cheesman, Cronenberg, Guilfoyle, Sharma; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Grossman, Spear, Tomlinson


 * 310
 * Daniel Kash as Duggan 310
 * Yeoh, Fehr, Barrio, Cheesman, Guilfoule, Kash, Sharma; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich

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 * 311
 * Bill Irwin as Su'Kal 311 313
 * Nelu Handa as Smiling Starfleet Lieutenant Holo 311
 * Andrew Hinkson as Regulator 311
 * Jinny Jacinto as The Monster 311 313
 * Robert Verlaque as Kelpien Elder Holo 311
 * Danny Waugh as Vulcan Holo 311
 * Fehr, Alexander, Barrio, Irwin, Kidder, Notaro; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Blackwell, Dauda, Handa, Hinkson, Jacinto, Tassone, Verlaque, Waugh

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 * 312
 * Kenneth Mitchell as Aurellio 312 313
 * Lisa Berry as Kanak 312
 * Lamont James as Regulator Guard #1 312
 * Dorren Lee as Lt. Teemo 312 313
 * Alexander Mandra as Avryz 312
 * Roy Samuelson as Emerald Chain computer 312 313
 * Fehr, Averbach-Katz, Kidder, Mitchell, Wallis, Weber; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Beiser, Berry, Blackwell, Dickinson, Jackson, James, Lee, Mandra, Tassone, Samuelson

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 * 313
 * Alain Chanoine as Regulator Escort #1 313
 * Farhang Ghajar as Bridge Regulator 313
 * Fehr, Alexander, Barrio, Cronenberg, Hussain, Irwin, Kidder, Mitchell, Notaro, Wallis, Weber; Coutts, Kwok-Choon, Oladejo, Rowe, Mitich, Grossman, Blackwell, Chanoine, Dauda, Ghajar, Jacinto, Jackson, Lee, Robinson, Rosling, Spear, Tomlinson, Samuelson
 * Hi I added film director David Cronenberg as a Notable Guest. This edit is worthy as his appearance in the series is a bit of a scoop. Please revert if inappropriate. Cograng (talk) 10:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't just include everyone that people think are noteworthy or "a bit of a scoop", there has to be a way to limit the list to a reasonable number of guests. That is why we have additional criteria restricting the list to guest actors/characters who are returning from previous seasons or Star Trek series. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

"The Citadel (Star Trek: Discovery)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Andromeda
No mention of Andromeda? I remember the discussions and there was at the start of the season at least the perception that the Fall of the Federation premise smelled a lot like Andromeda. By the end of the season the series had probably done enough to chart a different course but it surprises me that this article doesn't mention it at all. A review of s3e1 notes "Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda. And now Star Trek: Discovery is doing their own take on this…" -- 109.78.197.10 (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I read every top review on RT and many more when putting together the reception section for this article and that series never came up. Even if that one review you linked mentioned it that doesn't mean it was a significant thing in terms of the general reception to the season. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)