Talk:Subtle is the Lord

Improvement and DYK
Hi all, I am searching for a more catchy hook for the DYK above, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. We discussed this book once before, do you have any ideas for improvements or the DYK? I am sure there is a lot of interesting material here, but I have not had a chance to read everything. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 01:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * ALT0 is convoluted and I would guess it's over the 200-characters limit. I got the book when it came out and the selling point for it was what ALT1 and ALT2 say, so I would go with one of them.  Sometimes the simplest hook is the best.  Wasted Time R (talk) 12:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you, it almost seems like a coincidence, but I stuck out ALT0 and it was almost immediately reviewed. I have yet to read this entire book and no doubt have overlooked some things, if you see anything that can be improved, please do so. Thanks again! Footlessmouse (talk) 17:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Citation needed for year of death?
Common knowledge statements do not need citations as citations exist to allow for verification. His year of death does not need verification as it is common knowledge, is there a biography guideline I'm missing? We can add a reference to one of his obits for it, but it is reference spam, IMO. Footlessmouse (talk) 21:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, "common knowledge"? I hardly think the death date of Abraham Pais qualfies as a statement so obvious that everyone knows it, like the sky is blue. Of course, you're right that one can simply Google it and verify the thing quite quickly, but WP:V asks us not to rely on that, but to provide explicit citations. Anyway, I see that you've provided a useful cited update verifying the year, so all's good now. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I know more about scientific topics than about regular bio stuff. WP:SCICITE states "A frustrated spin glass may have a large ground state degeneracy." is common knowledge because it is "uncontroversial and widely known among people familiar with the discipline". This probably doesn't apply here, but it shows where I'm coming from. The statement is uncontroversial and is known to those familiar with the topic and verifiable by a million different sources for everyone else. Note: I added a reference for his death date in the text and it is cited by an obituary. Footlessmouse (talk) 22:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I didn't notice this the first time, I only saw the citation needed in the lead. Why did you put a citation needed template on a statement about translating into foreign language immediately above a list of languages the book has been translated into with ISBNs and other identifiers? I will wait a while for your response before reverting, but I'm quite sure that it is unnecessary. Footlessmouse (talk) 06:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ah yes, you're right. Apologies for that, I've removed the cn tag for that now. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 09:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)