Talk:Symfony

Neutrality
The page describes it as easy, and uses a similar self-promoting tone all the way through.

It also speaks of the user as "You" rather than the user or end user or a similar term.

Shouldn't it follow a neutral point of view? Prophile 15:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed. However, given the nature of the app it's more likely to be fanboyism than good old-fashioned advertising. Probably better with a cleanup tag because the advocacy is due to enthusiasm. Chris Cunningham 21:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've tried to make it less embarrassing. Still massive cleanup and expansion required of course. Chris Cunningham 21:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I happen to know that the author of the page was the author of the software. The text was very similar to that of the homepage... good job with the cleanup but still needs work. Prophile 20:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * This entire article is marketing drivel. I have worked on a project utilzing Symfony for some time now, and it is just a framework, with its own advantages and quirks, like any other.  But this article comes off like it is a god send.  Some much needed rewriting should be applied to every section. Kingmundi (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Being the new symfony community manager, I would be interested in working with you guys to create a more objective version of this article more reflecting what the framework is without only advertising its benefits. Marking this article for deletion does not seem the best solution in my humble opinion, since symfony is the #2 PHP5 MVC-based framework at this point, so it would leave a big gap in the Wikipedia information. Stefan Koopmanschap —Preceding undated comment added 23:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC).

Agile Principles
DRY and KISS are "agile principles?" They were taught to me in CS 101 during the 90's, long before "agile programming" existed. They are basic programming concepts. And, common sense... More of a rant than anything else.

I'm sorry, but symfony isn't really MVC
It doesn't follow the MVC rules in 100%. Read here - http://pookey.co.uk/blog/archives/43-phplondon08-the-crazy-guy-mail.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.29.214.231 (talk) 13:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Confusing language
I deleted a section that basically stated an opcode cache could be replaced on shared hosts using Symfony's internal caching. The internal caching is like any other userland caching mechanism - it has nothing to do with opcodes. An opcode cache just makes PHP faster than without one - internal caching would be used with/without the opcode cache either way so it's not a direct replacement.

The statement as is was misleading and wrong. Article really needs a good objective cleanup - the number of slanted statements is reprehensible.168.168.33.250 (talk) 10:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Symfony 1 and Symfony 2
Symfony 1 and Symfony 2 is two different frameworks. I think that should be divide "Symfony" article for "Symfony 1 " and "Symfony 2" articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denys281 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Development Roadmap
What is the purpose of this section? Does it refer to Symfony2 at all or is it left over from old symfony1.x? There are no dates or releases to go with this. There are no sources. Seems like this section should be deleted Mattsnowboard (talk) 01:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

What about the name?
Does anybody know why it's called "symfony" with an f instead of ph? Is it from another language, a pun of some kind, or for no particular reason? If that is known, it would be interesting to have it mentioned in the article. Teo8976 (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * It's because at first the name of the framework was "Sensio Framework", hence the "sf" initials. When it was open sourced, they wanted to keep the "sf" part, so they named it "symfony" Pierstoval (talk) 16:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)