Talk:Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah

Suggestion to add in cameo
Yuva Unstoppable foundation people came to visit gokuldham after KBC episode and contributed towards NGO. KBC Episode --103.81.92.173 (talk) 14:53, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Added deletion tag
There's alot of Original Research.

 Coercorash Talk Contr. 04:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I nominated article for deletion
Because
 * 1) Tags of lack of references and wikipedia clean up have been repeatedly deleted.
 * 2) It contains a lot of Original research like
 * ...of late since end 2009,serial goes biased,for instance, the May 2010 episodes are more on Wealth overtaking Values. With bad pronunciations by the Hero's son Tapu, Tapu is being glorified all times, perhaps, he's linked to producers.


 * ...He(Bhide) ensures that he saves every single paise whenever he can, which shows that he understands the importance of money, this habit of his is laughed by many. In one of the episodes it becomes a reason for quarrel between Daya Gada and Madhavi Bhide.


 * ...she(sonu) is a very sweet child who is not only well mannered but cultured as well. She is an intelligent and systematic girl. She goes to school on time, attends all her classes, comes back home, plays for a little while, does her homework, prepares her bag for the next day, prays to God and goes to sleep.(too much detail,they never showed a 'busy' sonu.)
 * ...He(sodhi) owns a transport business and also runs a Mandap Decorators service as an ancillary business to support his wife.[...]He hates 'Tapu' for breaking the glass of his window unlimited number of times.
 * She(Mrs. Roshan) is a sweetheart and very co-operative. She innocently commits a mistake but never realizes it which turns into a funny light moment. Both Sodhi and Roshan always have communication issues because of the language barrier.

Thereare alot more.I'll need an article List of Original researches in article of TMKUC.


 * 1) and how can you think that an article of 78 sections and sub-sections and approx. 35 thousand letters could have ONLY THREE references!

 Coercorash Talk Contr. 18:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Though i have not contributed in this article, i suggest not to delete this as it is very popular tv show and provide good information on it. I rather suggest adding more citations. find them in news archives. Nizil (talk) 23:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection
Many Unknown IP users repeatedly added original research text and deleted wikipedia clean up and lack of references tags.So it was Nominated for deletion but it was suggested that it should be semi protected, see here for more info.

 Coercorash Talk Contr. 14:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Padlock-dash2.svg Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Requests for page protection. Avic enna sis  @ 16:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm cleaning it up
I am replacing the current character sketches with those on sabtv.com. Abhkum (talk) 18:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Episode List Clutter
This sitcom is over 500 episodes long. It's really not possible to keep track of all those episodes. The episodes which do have summary are barely 1/25th of the total. With no end of the show in sight, the 'List of Episodes' section should be deleted. It gives a whole storylike feel to the article, which DOES NOT give a neutral view on the show. Alvord12 (talk) 13:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment if the Premise needs to be rewritten
The premise section is long enough and it is like elaboration of the characters of the program. Should it be rewritten in a more compact manner. Kannan Reddy (talk) 10:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Anon IP creating disambig links
Almost everyday certain anon IP edit the article to update number of episodes but at the same time create links to disambig pages, e.g Marathi people --> Marathi. I don't think that it is vandalism. It is just WEIRD. neo (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, its an hopping IP, I have watching for months..back after semi-protection got over. Same user also removes of all references. Doubly weird.--Ekabhishektalk 10:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

IP Vandalism

 * Just traced, an IP, User talk:223.178.125.32 sweeped clean all references with this edit. Restored. --Ekabhishektalk 10:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Another round of blanket reference removal detected by User talk:106.217.83.136. Restored. ---Ekabhishektalk 10:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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A message to editors ...
'''If you are going to change the episode number, make sure that it is not in the future. Failure to abide by this may result in being given a warning for disruptive editing.''' – Sb2001 talk page 19:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Name confusion
Hi you mentioned a source here which says Tarun Uppal but according to these sources the actor's name is Azhar Shaikh. Sid95Q (talk) 18:59, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If the show has been on for 10 years, could multiple actors have portrayed this character? That's fairly common. I had to revert that user's edit because it conflicted with the published source, but if there were multiple people to portray the role, then yes, we should include the various actors' names. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:22, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * there are no sources which indicates that multiple actors played that role (I watch this show but I know the rules so). There is only one source with Tarun uppal name all others are Azhar Sheikh, out of those only these two were reliable (others are either non reliable or in hindi). So what should be done in this case. Sid95Q (talk) 19:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Grammer
Many a times I have noticed that the grammer is a problem.And someone pls let me know if my edited spellings are correct. Thankfully Yours, Wikipearlindia (talk) 11:01, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Unexplained removal of character descriptions
I can't understand why in these edits you removed character descriptions that help readers unfamiliar with the series actually understand who the characters are and how they behave. What justification do you have for doing that? Even at children's cartoon articles we get some understanding of how character interact with one another. You should probably familiarise yourself with WP:TVCAST if you intend to edit TV articles. Cyphoidbomb (talk • contribs) 18:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Separate article for this serials characters.
I created a article on Popatlal but don't know how some one deleted it. I also linked this article to my created article. I followed all wikipedia's guidelines by adding lods of Citations from well known Times of India to India Today website but it got deleted.please every one here try to make sperate page for some prominent. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Kundan, please see WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:NOTTVGUIDE. We just can't have an indiscriminate number of articles. There should be quality. Article is Popatlal is kinda useless to general public and also unecyclopediac. GreaterPonce665 (talk) 23:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Cast section needs Wikitable
I believe the cast section needs wikitable. Because several actors played the characters over the but character description is here with only one cast member. In this show cast members change frequently. Sonalika Bhide's character has been portraying by 3 actresses so far. I think only wikitable can settle this problem.Ratan375 (talk) 17:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikitables aren't the solution to every problem. See WP:TVCAST, where the community expresses a preference for prose or bulleted lists, not tabular format, which can also present difficulties for people with accessibility issues. Typically, new cast members would be added to the bottom of each list, regardless of if they were replacing other cast members. But if the current construction is confusing to you, then you can propose that it be changed to focus on characters, the way children's TV articles do:
 * Sonalika Aatmaram Bhide - Bhide and Madhvi's daughter, member of Tapu Sena. Played by Jheel Mehta from 2008–2013, by Nidhi Bhanushali from 2013–2019, and by Palak Sidhwani from 2019–present.
 * That's pretty clear and concise and doesn't take up much space. Another option might be:
 * Sonalika Aatmaram Bhide - Bhide and Madhvi's daughter, member of Tapu Sena. Portrayed by:
 * Jheel Mehta (2008–2013)
 * Nidhi Bhanushali (2013–2019)
 * Palak Sidhwani (2019–present)
 * But that version takes up a lot of vertical space. I'm curious what thinks of either. But there's no need for tables when we do actually have other options. And I dislike the trend in Indian television articles to try to turn everything into bytes of compressed data, tables and parentheticals, rather than using complete sentences and full thoughts to communicate information. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with everything that Cyphoidbomb has said. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:54, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Unexplained removal of content
Hi there, could you please clarify what specifically was wrong with the content you removed in this edit? Thank you and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * They forgot a space between, and it looked unsourced to me Vizzinifezzikwomanchuck (talk) 21:33, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. Just so you're aware, we can use primary sources, i.e. the show itself, as a reference for basic details like plot summaries, cast lists, character descriptions, or any non-interpretive thing that someone could observe. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021
Requesting you to add Yashaswi Devadiga's name in the Cameo section under Cast as Yashaswi Devadiga ( Shridevi ) (2021) Yashaswi Devadiga played Shridevi's role in Taarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chahshma in 2021. References : 1. https://wikiwiki.in/actress/yashaswi-devadiga/ 2. https://favcelebswiki.com/yashaswi-devadiga/ 3. https://thefilmypant.com/article/yashaswi-devadiga-actress-height-weight-date-of-birth-age-wiki-biography-boyfriend-and-more/ 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGoyOypjkrY 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl4JlT4CVFk 6. https://www.tulucinema.com/mumbai-beauty-yashaswi-devadiga-steps-into-coastalwood/ 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlXzhGTrDag 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVlIYiM7lYI 9. https://mehakkkj.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/meet-the-gorgeous-top-16-finalists-of-alom-miss-mumbai-2017/ 10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eISjTZjVgUg 11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0aorZDZECQ 12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqp_RtAC-QA 13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HOGcY9Ijv4 14. https://in.bookmyshow.com/movies/belchappa/ET00109051 Yashaswi Devadiga's Social Media Handle: Instagram : @yashaswivd Link :https://www.instagram.com/yashaswivd/?hl=en Jackanonymouse1 (talk) 09:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. None of the sources you provided are reliable. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2021
I am a registered user of wikipedia and frequently edit articles I come across. This article on Taarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chashmah needs editing since the descriptions written are not so accurate and give a wrong impression of the show. Being watching this show since I was a kid, I know a lot about it and so will sincerely be able to edit and improve this article. Hence please let me do so. Dorkyhufflepuff (talk) 06:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2021
I can edit in storyline section as there are many storylines to come. And I can also edit cast, production and filming section as new cast members can join as new members and replacing old ones. And they often shift their shooting locations to shoot particular sequences even abroad. So it's necessary to update these sections. Pra2310 (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Please consider my request. As one user mentioned the number of episodes in latest storyline. Which is totally wrong. As it started just 2 days back and we didn't know when it will end. Pra2310 (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2021
I want to edit story arc section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiger saurabh (talk • contribs) 04:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC) Tiger saurabh (talk) 04:38, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2021
I want to edit this page as there are some mistakes and outdated information. Prince.Hanzra (talk) 17:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

The episode no and duration of per episode and many more things are there i want to edit them Prince.Hanzra (talk) 17:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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Story arcs
Ep 1640-1663(Kushi series) :Daya gets an unknown baby on her way back home. Later it's found out the baby actually belongs to family of Surbhi, a woman fighting with the old beliefs and her family is against taking care of a girl child. The entire gokuldham unites and help her fight against this old belief. Adrnav (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2021
In the story arcs section (3), in the 'Sundar brings Chanya-choli' line. change 'yogya' to 'yagya' 103.95.83.133 (talk) 05:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Instead of correcting the spelling to yajna, I've changed it to havan which is more accurate. In the episode 999 of TMKOC Jethalal conducted a 'Saala Shanti Hawan'. Eevee01(talk) 11:43, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Story arcs
Please add episode 63 to 66 (tapu's bhukh hadtal) 2402:3A80:1267:E201:0:3B:BB34:A01 (talk) 06:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I believe it is from episode 63-65. Eevee01(talk) 14:38, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Add-Latest Episodes and Crossovers KBC
Please make some changes...Latest episodes are not added.... Enjoyatharva2000 (talk) 08:20, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2021
Story arcs : Marriage Proposals for Popatlal (episodes 3327—present): After getting Amitabh Bachchan' special mention for Popatlal's marriage on KBC-13, two different families come to Gokuldham for marriage-meeting simultaneously in different houses of the society. As a plan, Popatlal tries hard to meet both the families sitting in Bhide & Hathi's homes simultaneously. But later they get to know, no one came to the society for a marriage meeting. Wikinfocorrector (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Added new episodes in the story arc section ! Wikinfocorrector (talk) 15:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: If I am interpreting correctly you wish for editors to update the story arc section to reflect newly released content. When making an edit request, it is required that you tell editors what content you want added, removed, or changed exactly - asking editors to independently research and update the article is not appropriate for an edit request. That can simply be a section on this talk page. — Sirdog (talk) 05:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Nevermind, made an oopsies. I was able to figure out what you wanted after reading the article over again. Duh! Content added. — Sirdog (talk) 05:32, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2021
Wikinfocorrector (talk) 12:51, 21 December 2021 (UTC) Marriage Proposals for Popatlal (episodes 3327—3332): After getting Amitabh Bachchan' special mention for Popatlal's marriage on KBC-13, two different families come to Gokuldham for marriage-meeting simultaneously in different houses of the society. As a plan, Popatlal tries hard to meet both the families sitting in Bhide & Hathi's homes simultaneously. But later they get to know, no one came to the society for a marriage meeting.

The 7 days episodes of "Marriage Proposals for popatlal" of tmkoc show has been completed. Wikinfocorrector (talk) 12:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ PianoDan (talk) 22:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

The story arc's section should be moved to another page
In my opinion, the story arcs given there are quite useful, but it just lying there in between the page just increases scroll time. And considering its length (thanks to the makers), it doesn't fit anywhere else on the page either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianjustme (talk • contribs) 12:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Adding to the conversation, User:Yuu Haru Angelo is deleting the story arcs section since it doesn't have reliable sources, but some IPs are readding it again. In my opinion, like User:Ianjustme said, the story arcs are useful, but the only sources for those according to me are the episodes found on YouTube. Any opinions or comments here, Yuu Haru Angelo? We are the Great (talk) 16:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Story arcs still shouldn't be here cause Sony SAB don't air episodes with episode name and it's just fan made. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 03:59, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Story Arcs
This article has an exceptionally big story arcs section. What is the actual need for it? Wouldn't a short plot summary be better than to expand of episode weeks? What do you say ? ItcouldbepossibleTalk 06:13, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I agree, it's just fan-made. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 04:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Itcouldbepossible As a continuous viewer if the show since starting I feel it's necessary. As it doesn't have a consistent plot line any other show. For example in Maddam Sir, Anupamaa have consistent storylines with their links to previous storyline. While in this show their is no consistent storyline and every storyline doesn't has a single connection with past storyline.  So summarized plot can't be made. So I feel story arcs is necessary.  However  I doesn't agree with Yuu Haru Angelo. This isn't fan-made storyline. Every story arcs is different that actually happened in the show. That's why I feel even SonyLIV link which is reliable and official primary link should be added in External links section to generate reliability for the same. Pri2000 (talk) 15:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Pri2000 Hmm, but how about moving the story arcs section to a different page? <b style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#f05,#b49);border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#ef4;">Itcouldbepossible</b>Talk 16:59, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Itcouldbepossible I suggested it once. And I think at one time their was a page with same titled "TMKOC:Story Arcs". So it'll be best to move it to a separate page with SonyLIV app link as the main External link as it's official Digital broadcaster as well as notable and reliable primary link for the show. Pri2000 (talk) 19:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Pri2000 If you feel it's necessary then add each and every episode name instead of adding these, each and every episode should have name instead of these.Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 02:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Itcouldbepossible please ask Yuu Haru Angelo to not do edit according to their own thoughts till the time any common consensus is reached. Pri2000 (talk) 08:44, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Pri2000

Add short summary instead of adding this long paragraph. You're explaining each and every episode we don't do that here on Wikipedia, even none page on Wikipedia have added something like that. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 09:52, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Itcouldbepossible even after no consensus reached this person is doing edits according to his point of view. I participated in several discussion that's why I know till the time no common consensus is reached no section should be removed or added. Even this isn't episodic summary. It's track summary of particular track. That's why I would suggest that a separate story arcs page should be made as soon as possible Pri2000 (talk) 10:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Pri2000 Well, just give me some time to decide, then I will tell you, what I think regarding this matter. For the time, I am a little busy, with things. So please wait for sometime. And, please don't remove anything until any consensus has been reached. Continuing to do so, will result in a edit war and you might get blocked, which I obviously don't want. So, please wait. I hope we will be able to do something regarding this 'story arcs' section. Thanks, <b style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#f05,#b49);border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#ef4;">Itcouldbepossible</b>Talk 13:33, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

You really want to make a separate page, seriously? Just for summary? As I have already said none page add Story Arcs you can check, add short summary instead. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 10:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Yuu Haru Angelo This is the longest running sitcom of India which has very different arcs and all the arc summaries were very useful. Just because other wiki pages don't have the same doesn't mean this page doesn't have to have it. 2409:4040:D87:A441:AE38:3A4F:8C9B:24E3 (talk) 14:05, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Okay I won't remove cause I don't wanna get blocked, but make sure Pri2000 won't add again. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 14:37, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed decisions
Now considering everything, I think such a big plot section shouldn't be there. No one is going to read a summary of the episodes of a TV show with 3000+ episodes. That whole thing is just unnecessary. The whole 'story arcs' section consisted of 76000~ bytes of data. Isn't this just way too much? I don't remember finding any TV show or even a film article with such a huge plot section. Even the best films, and the top grossing ones, won't possibly have such a huge plot section. Wikipedia is called an 'encyclopedia' and its content should also be encyclopedic. Wikipedia is also not a collection of information, and that also includes a huge plot summary. Imagine someone coming to Wikipedia to find out about this show, and they see the big 'story arcs' section. Would it be possible for anyone to read such a thing. Just going on adding content to articles, always doesn't work in favour of improving the article. '''The 'story arcs' section must not be added back before any decision has been reached. ''' I am hereby proposing two methods of eradicating this problem.

A short, concise, and well written plot summary as per MOS:TVPLOT could be inserted in place of the 'story arcs' section. That would make the article quite encyclopedic and clean.
 * Short plot summary

If a short plot summary cannot be framed at this moment, then it is best to go without a plot summary. When a plot summary can be made, it should be first discussed in the talk page, then it could be added to the article.
 * No plot summary

Now this is for all the major contributors of the article and the page watchers to decide, which way they think is the best way to proceed. Everyone willing, are requested to participate in this discussion and help reach a consensus. Sincerely, <b style="background:linear-gradient(45deg,#f05,#b49);border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#ef4;">Itcouldbepossible</b>Talk 16:13, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm agreeing with Itcouldbepossible's viewpoint on this. There's no absolute need for story arcs, neither as a big section on the article nor a separate page for it. Having a plot/synopsis section is more than enough, and even if a short summary can't be created due to the various different tracks on the show, then I guess it's fine because it isn't a compulsion to include. If an editor is able to create a plot summary (and that to under the word limit), then fair enough to include the same, otherwise let there be no section for plot. ManaliJain (talk) 03:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * 70k+ of data here is just too much, particularly without sources. Pika voom  Talk 10:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm agreeing with Itcouldbepossible's viewpoint on this, but only because there is too much space, and even if you move the Story Arcs section to a different page, there will have to be sources to support that, and the only sources I could find are in YouTube, which is generally considered an unreliable source. However, replacing it with a short, concise, and well written plot summary as per MOS:TVPLOT is a bit too challenging, considering the number of episodes this show has produced, so it is better to not have a plot at all. The Premise section and the description of the characters in the Cast section might fill in those shoes. We are the Great (talk) 21:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

IPs adding back the Story Arcs section
@Itcouldbepossible: I and @User:Ianjustme already had that conversation about moving the Story Arcs section to another page, a few months ago. When I saw User:Yuu Haru Angelo's contributions to the article (deleting the Story Arcs) section, every time IPs reverted it (readding the Story Arcs section). Do you think it is a good idea to protect this article? We are the Great (talk) 21:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @We are the Great yes please protect the article. And I don't agree with making a seperate page for story arcs.Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 03:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @We are the Great Well, there is no need to protect the article at this moment, since I very well know who the IP is. The more they edit, the more they will be in trouble. Let them decide which way they are to go. Thanks. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> Talk 03:44, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @We are the Great are y'all going to make a separate page for the story arcs? Because I have seen various shows where each episode plots are explained in detail. How is this any different from that? Because the story arc section was just a well summarised list of all the plots and it was genuinely very useful. Yes the show has more than 3000 episodes but the arc section wasn't giving summary of each and every episode. Having that section along with the episode number genuinely added a lot more to the wiki. 2409:4040:D87:A441:AE38:3A4F:8C9B:24E3 (talk) 14:13, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Story Arcs
I created a story arcs in draft article please review this and Submit the draft for review.

Draft:TMKOC Story Arcs  Tushar   (talk)  08:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tushar3011 But everyone here on talk page is disagreeing about making a seperate page for story arcs. Yuu Haru Angelo (talk) 12:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * That is not a standard episode listing type and where it the references. I plan to copyedit this article back to what it should be.   scope_creep Talk  14:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It probably does need it, as at 3000 episodes odd, the best idea to look to other good articles that are of very long running series and see how they are doing it. It won't get out of draft without somekind of real referencing. Those social media links it has are a real dud. I don't known how you'll do it. I'll ask around.   scope_creep Talk  15:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * That looks like something more appropriate for a Fandom wiki than here. Very short story arcs, what's needed is something with a larger span.  The sourcing issue is going to be significant as well.  I second the suggestion from Scope creep, and also suggest asking at the WT:Television for thoughts.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, your right. I asked and had a look about. That kinds of table is not used anywhere on Wikipedia. So I reverted the insert into the article. What is used, is episode blocks with a short bio for each episode pointing to individual articles. If its a big series the main series article, is off the main article. Star Trek: Picard gives you an example of a episode block. List of The Simpsons episodes is probably closer to what is needed with the season 1 espisode block linked to each individual article. That assumes that there is references and and the episode is recognised to be notable and is written properly and is a not a social media fan rehash. Even the Simpsons which is internationally famous and has 700+ odd episodes has episodes articles that are very poor written, formatted and referenced and this seems to be recognised that work needs done. I never knew this really worked until today. But certainly this arc thing is out the window and can't come back. Its dead.    scope_creep Talk  20:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the casting list
I've cleaned up that article a wee bit, normalised the language a bit. My grammer is not the best but I can do flow. The cast list needs to be formlised at the moment, at the moment it is mess. As its 3000+ episodes it deserves a proper table that explains these relationships formally. Also you new articles for those dude and dudettes who are names, for example Raj Anadkat who must have 100's episodes by now. They need articles. The sames in the "recurring" and "special appearences" lists. If they been on there for years and/or 100's episodes then they need new articles on them, to formalise the shape of the this article. That series really deserves a good articles. Hope that helps.  scope_creep Talk  15:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Scope creep Thanks for clearing up the article. The cleanup job was beyond what I could have done. Do you mean to say, some of the members of the case needs articles for them? And could this article be a WP:GA? <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> Talk 04:00, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think so. Its not WP:MOS compliant and doesn't cover a whole lot of what you would expect in a GA quality article. There is no sufficient details on a lot of stuff you would expect to see. Perhaps in 2-3 years. Keep at it.   scope_creep Talk  07:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2023
Vmphagi (talk) 09:32, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Ajeeb Prani (talk) 09:52, 28 September 2023 (UTC)