Talk:Taejodae of Goguryeo

Age claim issue
Greetings,

This article needs to be re-written from a NPOV. Most modern scholars dismiss the claim to age '119' and the '93-year-reign' as legend. Ryoung122 23:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Furthermore, his lifespan is given to be across the years "AD 3 - 121" and his reign is said to have spanned "(A.D.) 53 - 146", which would indicate that 25 years of his reign came after his death, something that cannot be accurate. Burbridge92 (talk) 20:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth II of the United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland vs. Taejodae of Goguryeo
King Sobhuza II of Swaziland and Queen Elizabeth II of the UK and king Rama IX of Thailand and Emperor Franz Josef of Austria-Hungary and Emperor Hirohito of Japan are the longest monarchs!!!! Aside from Queen Victoria of The UK. Long live the kings and queens and emperors and empresses!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnalexander Zarcp (talk • contribs) 03:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Disputing rename
As far as I know the "dae" is not part of his name, but part of "daewang" (大王), meaning "great king". Just like in the case of Sejong the Great. We don't name the article Sejongdae... It either should be Taejo of Goguryeo or Taejo the Great of Goguryeo. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  17:08, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * information from Korean user: King Taejodae and King Chadae, King Sindae 's "dae" are all same. 大. I'm not sure(and even historians are) why only these three kings have the title of daewang, but King Taejodae's official name recorded in Samguk Sagi is "King Taejodae"(太祖大王). It's somewhat different from King Sejong. Sejong's official name is Sejong, and we call hime Sejongdaewang as meaning "Sejong the great", but in case of Taejodaewang, his official name itself contains "dae". Ja wiki is also using "太祖大王". ØSalamander (Talk / Contributions) 17:25, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * This is the English Wikipedia, not the Korean. English language history books like Nahm, Andrew C. Korea: Tradition and Transformation — A History of the Korean People, second edition, Elizabeth, NJ: Hollym International (1996). ISBN 1-56591-070-2, and Jinwung Kim. A History of Korea: From "Land of the Morning Calm" to States in Conflict, Indiana University Press (2012). ISBN 9780253000781 which I'm using for my articles, refer to him as Taejo. And not only his book, but also this, this. This renaming is going against the naming convention in English. None of the English sources refer to him as Taejodae. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  07:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * in that case, you shuld apply that criteria to Chadae and Sindae too, but nobody call them "Cha the great" or "Sin the great". "King Taejo" is also often used expression so i don't care if you move it to "Taejo of Goguryeo" or "Taejo the great of Gogureyo", but it's the fact that "Taejodaewang" is an official recorded name, not an honory title. Check Samguk Sagis original records. Ø'Salamander (Talk / Contributions) 07:49, 1 March 2016 (UTC)