Talk:Taking the Initiative Party

Founded in 2020?
We say that it was founded in 2020, according to this Telegraph article behind a paywall. A Sky article says it was registered with the electoral commission four years ago. Sky is not the best news source, but should be clarified. Solipsism 101 (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed this when reading those sources for Sasha Johnson. They could both be true(-ish) if it was founded in 2017 and registered with the Electoral Commission in 2020. It could also have been founded under a different name originally ("the New Black Panther Party" even, to tie in another fact from a source with context that's not yet clear). — Bilorv ( talk ) 15:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's interesting. This Times piece (also paywalled, sorry) from 2018 mentions "Taking The Initiative Party" in passing as a new political party. I assumed it was a different party with the same name, but perhaps not. – Bangalamania (talk) 15:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The electoral commission says the TTIP was registered in October of 2017. There are reports that the leader, Nicola Zingwari, is Charles Gordon's sister but they come from the incredibly unreliable Daily Mail. TTIP might still be "launched" in 2020, if it were inactive prior - though it seems it wasn't if it was mentioned by the Times in 2018. Solipsism 101 (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The article was only mentioning new parties which had been set up in 2017 ("the last year"), as per the Electoral Commission ref you gave, most of which would have probably been inactive. So you're probably right. --Bangalamania (talk) 14:03, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Whom ever put this up for deletion is a bit silly
This is notable because it has been in the centre of news before despite lacking any elected seats, there are plenty of parties listed that do indeed lack seats, should we remove the page for the wessex regionalists, CPGB-ML, CPB, Burning Pink? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Judeobasquelanguage (talk • contribs) 20:05, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * the right place to make your opinion known is at the linked deletion discussion page, where you should make reference to which sources make it pass which notability condition. You can see in the page history which editor introduce any material to any Wikipedia page, including who added the deletion notice to this article. You should sign comments on talk pages by ending them with the code . — Bilorv ( talk ) 20:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

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Co-founder
Taking the Initiative party was once thought to have been co-founded by activist Sasha Johnson. In fact the party's co-founder is one Andrew Morris, who wrote the party's manifesto from his prison cell, while serving an Indeterminate public protection (IPP) sentence. Andrew, a civil servant has since left TTIP citing 'personal reasons for the departure earlier this year'.UNGRIPP – insidetime & insideinformation 194.33.192.5 (talk) 14:18, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

The little known Co-founder of Taking the Initiative party has been revealed following his departure from the organisation. Andrew Morris, from South London has revealed himself as the co-founder of TTIP. He said "usually success has many fathers and failure is an orphan, with TTIP, I don't think I would claim it as a success, although I do think it is important that everyone is credited for their work". Episode 31 - Andrew Morris on Life after an IPP (Indeterminate Public Protection) sentence, The Land of Milk and Honey | Listen Notes 194.33.196.48 (talk) 14:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not too clear what your citation is to—a podcast? What makes this a reliable source (essentially, how can we tell Morris is not falsely claiming to be co-founder)? If reliable sources state this as fact then I'm sure it does belong in the article. — Bilorv ( talk ) 13:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Brixton Bugle May 2023 (brixtonblog.com) 212.250.37.185 (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Brixton Bugle May 2023 (brixtonblog.com) this also cites it and the party themselves declared it on their social media. 212.250.37.185 (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I can't find this source based on your description. Can you provide a link or additional details? — Bilorv ( talk ) 21:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)