Talk:The Loco-Motion

Needs to be completely rewritten
This article seems to treat "The Loco-Motion" as though it were simply a Kylie Minogue hit. The lead sentence even says "'The Loco-Motion' is a pop music song written by American song-writers Gerry Goffin and Carole King and performed by Kylie Minogue on her debut album Kylie (1988)." The infobox shows the Minogue single, the chart history and prose all treat the Mingoue cover exclusively. You'd hardly even know, if you glanced at this article, that it was a US #1 hit for Little Eva in 1962. Eva's version is given a tossed-off mention in the lead, as though she had little to do with the song! I'm not saying the article needs to be completely de-Kylie-fied, but it should give Little Eva's version at least as much focus (if not more) than Kylie's cover. Andrew Levine 13:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There used to be another article that had that information, but it appears somebody overwrote it by moving the Kylie article into its place. I had already IDed the Kylie article as one needing to be combined with the original article, but it appears someone has wiped out that history, so, unless somebody wants to restore that, then a complete rewrite is indeed in order. GassyGuy 23:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've restored and integrated that pre-Kylie material into the current article (there wasn't that much), then restructured the article to indicate where added dance, Eva, and GFR material should go.  Wasted Time R 21:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Agree. In addition to Little Eva, the song was also a U.S. #1 for Grand Funk.  So if anything, the article should at the very least focus on those three versions. -- eo 00:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I didn't even know that. I wonder if any other songs have made #2 or higher on the Billboard Pop charts in three different versions? Andrew Levine 21:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I only glanced at the article, but on a Google Search, I came across this article thinking it was the Little Eva version. Too bad I didn't think about this article. I don't know much about how to edit Wikipedia, but I'm all for the change. Just please get someone who knows how to work this website to actually do what everyone here has suggested.Sir Trekie 16:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The artile should probably detail ALL of the covers that have been relased of this song, as Grand Funk Railroad also released a cover of it, and I believe was the first time a song that was re-released as a cover went to #1 for two different artists. I'm also curious if Kylie was the only 80s artist to release a cover of the song.  Something in my brain is saying no, she wasn't, but I can't find the evidence to back it up.Mor-Dan Kin 03:00, 17 October 2006 (CST)
 * Don't forget the Sylvie Vartan's Le Locomotion from the 60s.
 * The was also a succesful release by The Chiffons in 1963. Afaik, Locomotion was also the name for a dance style at that time. I think this information should also be integrated.
 * I'm busy but I'll try to get around to a rewrite asap. Not logged in, too lazy but I'll signSillywebby 03:09, 29 November 2006 (EST)

I still think the article focuses too much on the Kylie Minogue version. The original version by Little Eva is probably the best-known version, yet the article gives much more info on the Kylie Minogue version - detailed chart info, info on several different formats of the single in Australia, Sweden, the US, the UK and Germany, etc. Oldiesmann (talk) 21:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think Kylie's version is much more famous. Maybe because I was a kid in the eighties :D anyway, Eva's chart info should be included in the article, and prior to that of Kylie, because it was earlier. And I'm sure many more artists covered this, but the article doesn't mention any of them. – Alensha   talk  00:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Versions
Which version is the one starting with "The locmotion, the locomotion..."? The post SAW? Also who are the other girls in the video? The one with the fringe is Tania Lacy, but what about the other blond girl and the brunette in a gray dress, similar to that of Kylie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.130.136.199 (talk) 23:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

A band called Ritz released a disco version of the song, which was no.1 in the New Zealand charts for several weeks in 1980. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.70.5 (talk) 10:31, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The Ritz version was also a #12 hit in Australia.Nqr9 (talk) 10:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Lyrics
Has anyone noticed that, although the various recordings have been extremely popular, the lyrics are basically instructions for doing a line-type dance that never became popular at all (as best I remember, having turned 17 in 1962 when the original US version was released). Dick Kimball (talk) 13:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I've noticed that this page fails to mention the cover song by Debbie Gibson, which did reach chart levels, because I clearly remember the video and song, as much as I'd like to forget. Kylie did it yeah, but AFTER Debbie and that's why her song failed to last on the charts, we had Loco-overload and I'm surprised Debbie Gibson didn't get any credit here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.242.159 (talk) 21:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Kylie's Aussie Release Date Confusion
The single was actually released on Monday, 20th July 1987 and entered the charts the following week on Monday, 27th July 1987 on the Kent Music Report - ARIA started in mid-1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdl1976 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it was actually released on the 13th. There was a 2-week lag time back then between release dates and chart debuts (if a release entered the chart after one week of sales). I've now corrected this, and added a reference for it.Nqr9 (talk) 00:54, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Can "The Loco-Motion" Be Classified As Bubblegum Pop (Or Dance)?
From the entry on "Bubblegum Pop," it appears that the genre didn't begin until 1967, five years AFTER the first appearance of "The Loco-Motion" (by Little Eva) in 1962.

On the other hand, the song's main characteristics -- (1) Rock music, (2) clearly aimed at kids and young teens, (3) employing an upbeat theme, (4) including romantic love ("Do it holding hands until you get the notion"), and (5) using a repeated, catchy musical hook ("C'mon baby, do the Loco-Motion!") would seem to place it solidly within the "Bubblegum" genre; indeed, in my opinion one would be very hard-pressed to find a more "Bubblegummy" (to coin a term) song than "The Loco-Motion."

Yet according to the "Bubblegum Pop" article, "The Loco-Motion" at no time falls within the "Bubblegum" genre's timeframe.

What is one to make of this? Is "The Loco-Motion" Bubblegum, or not?

Discussion? Debate? Rebuttal?

--The Grand Rascal. The Grand Rascal (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not work this way. We do not, for example, decide whether or not NASA landed astronauts on the Moon, whether or not someone is a white supremacist or much of anything. Instead, we report what independent reliable sources say. If sources say the song is bubblegum, Wikipedia says it is bubblegum. Different sources will give different genres for the same song, so we use WP:WEIGHT to help sort it out. So, if a marginally reliable site says the song is "melodic Viking death metal" while Rolling Stone says it is "bubblegum pop", Rolling Stone will carry the day. (Similarly, various sources will give different dates to the beginning of "bubblegum pop", as it is unlikely that a completely original genre arrived one day that was clearly different from everything that come before it. It's more likely to evolve.) - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:33, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Sounds to me (at least in this instance) like it's a lot more trouble than it's worth! The Grand Rascal (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2019 (UTC)