Wikipedia talk:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music

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WP:UNDUE issue at Chris Brown (American singer)
Opinions are needed on this matter. Earlier, I reverted to the previous formatting, per my reasoning at Talk:Chris Brown (American singer). Splitting up the sections to where his domestic violence case is highlighted is a sure case of WP:UNDUE. There is no valid reason to highlight the section by making it its own section and separating it from his career efforts at that time, especially since it (the domestic violence case) affected those efforts. It makes more sense to keep all that information there in one place. This is also how biographies of living people are typically done -- avoiding Criticism or Controversy sections by themselves. They especially follow chronological order. If the Michael Jackson article (which is featured) can combine controversy with career happenings without any problems, then I do not see why this article cannot as well. Flyer22 (talk) 05:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

"All In Love Is Fair"
Trying to work out if there were one, two or more songs/albums of this name on the go in the mid 1970's.

Nancy Wilson (jazz singer) links to All In Love Is Fair as a 1974 album of hers. All in love is fair redirects to Innervisions (a 1973 Stevie Wonder album) which mentions that "All in Love is Fair" was a later hit for Barbra Streisand, who recorded it and released as a single in 1974.

I suspect the matter needs disambiguation - any experts here who might fancy having a go at this? Ta. - TB (talk) 22:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Billboard Decade-End as a parallel to Billboard Year-End
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music so that all discussion is in one place.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

AFD for Dario (Singer)
I figured I'd cross post this here to get some input from the R&B WikiProject:


 * This looks like no consensus to me. I Help, When I Can.[12] 22:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time
Wikipedia has an article about a song of this title. But it refers to something from the nineties by R. Kelly.

Unmentioned is the fact that there was a different song, of the same title, recorded by Tyrone Davis. I hadn't heard this song in years but Otis Clay played it at his Millennium Park concert in Chicago the other night. It's a great song, and Wikipedia should have something about it. I myself know nothing about it or about Tyrone Davis so I'm not really a potential author, but it should not be unmentioned.

On further review, there is a Wikipedia page about this song: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_Back_the_Hands_of_Time_(song). But the title of this song is "Turn Back the Hands of Time", not "If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time". Disambiguation links might be appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevecoh1 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 6 August 2011


 * I've added to the hatnote and to the text, for clarification. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Prince proposal
Please add your opinion. I Help, When I Can.[12] 22:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Need books
hello,

if someone has any books about Otis Redding, please ping on my talk page. Thanks.-- ♫GoP♫ T C N 10:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Page location discussion
I have opened an WP:RFC at Talk:T.H.E._(The_Hardest_Ever).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Ciara proposal
Please join this discussion. Thanks, Pancake (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:R&B and Soul Music will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in these genres; as musicians, performers, subjects, etc. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Prince albums
The ledes for some articles on Prince's albums:


 * 3121 (2006): "3121 ... is the thirty-first studio album by Prince..."
 * Planet Earth (2007): "Planet Earth is the twenty-fifth studio album by American musician Prince..."
 * Lotusflower (2009): "Lotusflow3r ... is the twenty-sixth studio album by American musician Prince..."
 * 20Ten (2010): "20Ten is the thirty-fifth studio album by American musician Prince..."

So something's wrong here, but I've no idea what's right. Maybe somebody could clear this up?&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  23:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal
nominated List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Rubiscous (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

A new barnstar
I present a new barnstar for your WikiProject!



Jill Scott, Dionne Warwick, Ray Charles and the now sadly departed Whitney Houston. All in one barnstar. Feel free to hand it out to people who improve Wikipedia's coverage of R&B and Soul.

—Tom Morris (talk) 22:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I love it!!! Eduemo<b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 03:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

FAR notification
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Misha B
Two points...how do I put a newish artist [Misha B] under your wing, secondly

Me and another editor Rui78901 are having a difference of opinion about layout and content of the Misha B page, over the last three weeks the have been a few reverts, both ways, we have started a discussion on the talk page, if you have time please contribute any advice, comment or recommendation either way or other. Thank you in advance. ....Zoebuggie☺whispers 13:34, 5 August 2012


 * I forgot to say If a project team has any free wiki time could they Assess the Misha B article it would be fab is Misha B UK solo vocalist singing in various genres, primarily in Contemporary R&B and Soul, but also British Hip Hop, Rap, Hip Hop Soul, Grime, Reggae Fusion and Pop - before X factor and after. How do I get the bot to pick her up for an assessment? ... Zoebuggie☺  whispers  16:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Misha B music genres
Question that you may ask is does Misha B come under your Soul and R&B wing.

Misha's music genre is hard to pin down :) MB is an artist who does not want to be boxed into Genres, but expressly/actively determined to mix genres and experiment with styles. Below is a non-exhaustive list of sources that refer to Bryan's genre. The Genres in normal brackets are simple ones I have not so far used on the info box.


 * R&B


 * soul inc (Motown)


 * but also


 * hip hop


 * rap


 * (Grime)


 * reggae fusion inc (drum and base)(dancehall)


 * (dance)


 * (rock)


 * (indie)


 * (pop)


 * (funk) (blues)


 * (R&B, hip hop, soul, (funk), (blues),(pop), (acoustic?) and (indie) <my own collection of her youtube vids> )
 * (R&B, hip hop, soul, (funk), (blues),(pop), (acoustic?) and (indie) <my own collection of her youtube vids> )


 * ... Zoebuggie☺ whispers  16:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * P.S. For her info box, I am inclined to drop the last 3-5 genres. ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

A bit of help from the Wikiproject.
I nominated Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Leona Lewis/archive2 over a month ago and it hasn't had many comments from reviewers and editors. One of the reviewers hasn't been online for over a week, and another hasn't responded to some comments I have replied. I was advised to leave a note on the list's wikiproject's asking for anyone who may have some time to spare to review the list and leave comments. A vote on whether or not you feel the article is worthy of FL status would also be appreciated so that the FLC can make some progress. Thanks. Aaron  • You Da  One 23:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Good article reassessment/Tina Turner/1
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Missing My Baby at FAC
Just a note that I've nominated "Missing My Baby" at FAC and would like my fellow members to provide a comment on its nomination. Best, Jona  talk to me  14:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Justin Bieber listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Жастин Бибер and Джастин Бибер. Since you had some involvement with the Justin Bieber redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 76.65.128.252 (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Spoken word soul


The article Spoken word soul has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * The artists mentioned in this article have all combined spoken word with musical accompaniment. However, someone seems to have retroactively applied "spoken word soul" to what are actually diverse styles of music, possibly based on a quote from Shades of J (who released an album called Spoken World Soul). See Talk:Spoken word soul.

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CfD nomination of Category:Spoken word soul
On a related note: Category:Spoken word soul has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:56, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Leona Lewis proposal
Hello, I have proposed the created of Wikiproject Leona Lewis at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Leona Lewis. Please would you cast a vote or raise any questions in a discussion. Thanks. AARON • TALK  14:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Adele/archive1
Would anyone from the Wikiproject like to leave any comments which they feel concerns them or would cast a vote in support or opposition based on your findings, I would much appreciate it. The list has garnered several good (and resolved) reviews, but no votes have been cast. Thanks. AARON • TALK  12:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Urban jazz for deletion
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GAR
Speed Demon (song), an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article.--Tomcat (7) 18:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Misha B
If anyone has a free moment an independent third party comment about what music genres should be listed on the Misha B / Talk:Misha B pages  would be useful. Misha B has only released two official tracks, but has covered dozens of others, the is references to her influences and forthcoming album too.... Zoebuggie☺ whispers  13:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Hush Hush
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Hush Hush regarding the page "Hush Hush." Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Tyrol5   [Talk]  02:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks fellow wiki-mate, but it seems the discussion has already been solved. <b style="background:#FEE;padding:5px;font-size:10px"><b style="color:#913">Ed</b><b style="color:#C13">ue</b><b style="color:#D35">mo</b><b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 05:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Vital articles
There is a discussion regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the project occuring here. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc (talk&#124;contribs)  21:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

talk:Black Entertainment Television
Request is still discussed; comment while it lasts. --George Ho (talk) 02:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Request
Not sure why it is not on the list, but in my opinion a band as influential as Zapp really deserves a huge cleanup and slightly more expansion. If anyone will read this please add it to the to do list of articles to improve on, thanks. I will be making efforts to improve the article too. Kaleidoscopic God (talk) 17:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's health and appearance article
Anyone willing to help out with the Michael Jackson's health and appearance article? The same back and forth mess is still going on at that article, such as with this and this edit by "new editor" Firstcomp, especially with regard to Jackson's skin color and whatever plastic surgery he might have had. See Talk:Michael Jackson's health and appearance for further detail. Flyer22 (talk) 21:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Dazz Band
Dazz Band needs an accuracy check and probably more citations. It also needs more people watchlisting the article due to slow-motion attempts to change the information in the article in ways that contradict the listed sources.

If the listed sources are factually incorrect, they need to be augmented with other reliable sources so that it is clear that the dispute is based on contradictory reliable sources. If it's clear that the sources used are actually in error, this needs to be logged on the talk page, the source replaced, and the article corrected.

I will be asking for PC1 on this article. If PC1 is added, it can be removed when either the number of watchers grows or when the issues that are leading to the slow-motion edit war (namely, changing information that contradicts a presumably-reliable source without supplying a reliable source to back the newly-added information) are resolved. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  16:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

"Bad"
There's a bit of a dispute at Bad (Michael Jackson song) over a date.


 * 1) This documentary says the video was filmed in 1986.
 * 2) The article itself says the song was recorded in January 1987, but this claim is unsourced.
 * 3) This Allmusic link says the album was recorded between January and July 1987.

Which date is right? And where could I find sources verifying either date? Googling "Michael Jackson" "Bad" "January 1987" turned up only Wikipedia mirrors and false positives. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:22, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject R&B and Soul Music At Wikimania 2014
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Grammy Award templates
Suddenly a raft of less important Grammy Awards templates are being created. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and prizes.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

The wrong meaning of singer-songwriter
Tonight I noticed that a bunch of articles show the wrong meaning of singer-songwriter, which ought to be limited to a primarily solo artist who writes political or socially topical songs. Think of Bob Dylan or Woody Guthrie.

The R&B articles I have been seeing contain the mistaken assumption that a singer-songwriter is simply a singer who writes songs. For instance, Michael Jackson was never a singer-songwriter, even though he sang and wrote. Somebody who dances and sings is not a singer-songwriter. Somebody who writes popular songs is not a singer-songwriter.

Another problems is that we have one or more categories that carry forward the mistake: Category talk:American rhythm and blues singer-songwriters.

Please help me change the mistaken instances of "singer-songwriter" to "singer and songwriter" or something similar that makes sense in context. Binksternet (talk) 06:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Genre issue on GA nominated article
Hello. An editor and I have hit a stand still in an article related to this project regarding genre. Could some editors weight in on it here please? thank you! Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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TFAR notification
I've nominated a WP:FA article related to this project for WP:TFAR consideration as Today's Featured Article, please see discussion at Today's featured article/requests/Irreplaceable. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

FAR listing
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WikiProject X is live!


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I know nothing
I got an invitation to join this project, but I have no special knowledge. I do like this type of music and am intersested in helping in any way that I can, but I have no idea how to start. Think of me as a secretary. Give me something to do... Cliff (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sade Adu listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Sade Adu to be moved to Sade. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Amber (performer) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Amber (performer) to be moved to Amber (singer). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Amber (singer) listed at Requested moves
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Meghan Trainor
There has been some dispute as to whether or not Meghan Trainor should be included in the scope of this WikiProject. Feel free to comment here if you are interested. –Chase (talk / contribs) 07:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding single artwork in song articles
This discussion is relevant to this WikiProject, and interested editors may wish to comment. Chase (talk &#124; contributions) 14:50, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Concerns regarding FA quality
I've just tidied up The Long and Winding Road a little, and removed some unsourced trivia. The article doesn't appear to me as either FA or GA quality in terms of coverage, prose, and MoS requirements - it was promoted in 2004, and reviewed again in 2006, and hasn't been well maintained. I will not have the time to tidy up the article or take my concerns further, however it seems appropriate to raise those concerns rather than merely pass on by, so, per the stage one process at Featured article review I have left a note on the article talkpage, and am notifying relevant Projects. It is unlikely I will be getting involved further.  SilkTork  <sup style="color:#347C2C;">✔Tea time  16:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

FLRC
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Discussion regarding terminology of singles
I have started a discussion regarding how Wikipedia should define singles. Please go here to discuss.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 19:04, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Michael Jackson & The Jacksons – Month To Month Recording Session Guide
Anyone interested in helping with Draft:Michael Jackson & The Jacksons – Month To Month Recording Session Guide? It was recently created by a very, very new editor and he could definitely use some help with this. It's written like a personal blog, is unsourced, and I'm worried that it might be considered too indiscriminate for Wikipedia, but I could maybe see the potential merit in having a recording guide to an artist's work. I'm going to post this in a few places looking for help. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

List of charted recordings from American Sound Studio
Hello, the current article American Sound Studio states "Between 1967 and 1971 approximately 120 hit songs were produced, and listed in the top 100 of Billboard, at the American Sound Studio. During one week span 25% of Billboards top 100 not only came from the same studio but featured the same band backing a variety of artists."

I propose to compile a list of these recordings for addition to the article, or for a new article. Would anyone like to help me? Specifically I can use help in compiling the data, and in formatting the list. I am thinking of a table format in chronological order, listing: Release date, Title, Artist, Chart# US, Chart# UK, other charts tba, Producer. Maybe add certification i.e. Gold?

Perhaps a lot of this data is in the reference books cited? I don't have these books. Thanks. Design (talk) 01:02, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

"International Lover"
I just started the article for "International Lover", the song that earned Prince his first Grammy nomination. There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs regarding my need for assistance in improving the article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:24, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes
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Wolf Krakowski
Would someone mind taking a look at Wolf Krakowski and assessing it. It's unsourced so it's not clear if he is notable per WP:MUSICBIO or even WP:GNG. Article was created back in 2004 (when the notability guidelines might have been a little laxer than they are now), so it's not eligible for WP:BLPPROD. I googled his name and got quite a few hits, but nothing looked like the significant coverage needed for GNG. Perhaps someone else knows where better sources might be found? Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

GAr
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Proposed split of Michael Jackson double A-side article
The article about Michael Jackson's 1997 double A-side single HIStory/Ghosts has been proposed to be split into two separate articles, one for each song. Interested editors may discuss here. Chase (talk &#124; contributions) 23:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Re: Sober (Selena Gomez song)
Project members are welcome to help determine the appropriateness of the article Sober (Selena Gomez song) at Talk:Sober (Selena Gomez song). Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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RfC about White House petition to make Party in the USA the national anthem
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Janet Jackson (album)
Janet Jackson (album) is undergoing a GA reassessment. Most problems have been tackled, however, the article does not meet criteria 3a, as it does not address the main aspects of the topic - there is almost nothing about production of the album, and little about critical reception on release. The reassessment is on hold for seven days to allow time to build the article. SilkTork (talk) 02:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; Rod talk 18:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Please come and help...
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Do You Love Me (disambiguation), regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Your opinion and rationale are needed so a decision can be made. Thank you and Happy New Year to All!  Paine Ellsworth   put'r there  06:41, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Surprised at articles which remain untagged and unassessed ...
Discovered this morning to my great surprise that Dennis Edwards remained untagged for this WikiProject, as do members of the Pointer Sisters and Martha and the Vandellas. Have also put in a bot request for cleanup listings for this project.--Ziggyfan23 (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Charles Neville died today; sole one of The Neville Brothers without an article
See Talk page on above article. Currently Charles Neville (musician) simply redirects to The Neville Brothers. All the other Neville Brothers -- Aaron, Art, Cyril, and Ivan - have excellent articles; Charles, the horn player as Aaron called him today in a moving post, has not even a stub.

See Neville Brothers infobox as well as Category:The Neville Brothers members for links to 4 good articles to be mined for sources and used as models.

Hope this is done before closing day of Jazz Fest, which the brothers traditionally closed down with a huge show every year. Thank you! -- Paulscrawl (talk) 02:27, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Per advice at the Teahouse, I'm adding a link here for any competent music / biography editors to dive in:

Peace -- Paulscrawl (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template Transclude lead excerpt.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you. &mdash; The Transhumanist  07:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I have been slash and burning
at List of doo-wop musicians, removing what I consider to not be doo-wop musicians, but would not mind having someone looking over my shoulder and offering a second opinion here and there. What I have removed, and some of what I intend to remove came be found on the talk page. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 05:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Please help investigate and edit if necessary
Hi. A request was made on 19 June at the help desk by someone who claims to have been a vocalist in the soul group The Hues Corporation. The person, Kenny James, is requesting the addition of his name to the article about the group. I conducted a light search for reliable sources that could corroborate the claims but I was unable to find any. I thought maybe you guys are more knowledgeable about finding sources of soul music and could help out with this case. Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 23:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Discovering more untagged articles for the project
Syreeta Wright hadn't been tagged yet! Am adding a tool below, and on the assessment page, for tracking our progress. Ziggyfan23 (talk) 02:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Current article assessment statistics
As of, there are ' articles within the scope of WikiProject R&B and Soul Music, of which ' are featured. This makes up % of the articles on Wikipedia and % of featured articles and lists. Including non-article pages, such as talk pages, redirects, categories, etcetera, there are  pages in the project. Ziggyfan23 (talk) 02:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Assessment progress since August 30, 2018
Ziggyfan23 (talk) 02:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

RfC re Here (Alicia Keys album)
There is an ongoing Requests for Comment (created 12 September 2018) about whether the critical reception section should be reduced. You may comment, if you wish, at: Talk:Here_(Alicia_Keys_album)

( Correct me if I'm wrong: aren't RfCs supposed to be made known in their relevant wiki project — as in, what is decided for one article can affect other articles in the project? Anyway, this RfC on the article's talk page was not posted here. Ergo .... ) Pyxis Solitary   yak  04:29, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Prince
Hello Wikipedia,

Having just read the whole of Prince's article on here, I felt compelled to sign up to Wikipedia and help to improve the article, as I feel Prince himself and, indeed, everybody who wants to learn more about him is deserving of a much higher quality article on Wikipedia for such an incredible musician and human being. I am writing here as I would like to greatly improve Prince's Wikipedia page, and to turn it into a top-notch article, and would welcome any help I can get in doing so. If you are reading this and wish to contribute to this noble goal, please do get in touch with me through my talk page--while I may be new to contributing to Wikipedia, I do strongly believe this is worth pursuing and would welcome the help of anybody who thinks the same way. Thank you. Pussycontrol (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on creating a "Cultural impact of Michael Jackson" article
Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Cultural impact of Michael Jackson. A permalink for it is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cultural_impact_of_Michael_Jackson&oldid=881410933#Should_this_page_and/or_a_%22Michael_Jackson_in_popular_culture%22_page_be_a_Wikipedia_article? here]. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 12:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of YouKnowIGotSoul.com on the reliable sources noticeboard
There is a discussion on the reliability of YouKnowIGotSoul.com on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   11:37, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Adele is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adele until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 02:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Brandy Norwood for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Brandy Norwood is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Brandy Norwood until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 02:42, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Amy Winehouse for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Amy Winehouse is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Amy Winehouse until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page.

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Selena for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Selena is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Selena until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 06:26, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Marvin Gaye for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Marvin Gaye is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Marvin Gaye until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 06:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletion (2nd nomination)
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Adele is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adele (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 01:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

New Member Intro
Hi all. It's come to my attention that this page has been marked as semi-active and that some Wiki users who are marked as members may be retired. I'll be actively updating and adding information that I find on certain R&B & Soul articles/pages. I'm currently interested in Nathan East and Stevie Wonder, as well as some old classics like The Brothers Johnson and The Gap Band, however in the mean time I'll do my best to work on what's currently needed and of high importance. Please don't hesitate to say hi on my talk page! Thanks, Photogceb (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Requested move Lady A → [[Lady A (band)]]
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Lady A § Requested move 9 November 2020. This is a discussion about moving Lady A → Lady A (band) as per the WP:BANDDAB naming convention guideline & to disambiguate the band from Anita White AKA Lady A (singer). Peaceray (talk) 04:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies has an RFC
Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies has an RFC for a possible alternative format for singles discography tables. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 01:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

GAR
Health and appearance of Michael Jackson has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.Quaffel (talk) 20:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft review request
I submitted Draft: DeVita (singer) about a week ago but it has not been reviewed yet. Can anyone review it? Thank you. 수행평가 (talk) 16:07, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG. Marchjuly (talk) 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Merger proposal notice
Opened a discussion about merging Pony (dance) into "Pony Time", please give it a look. Thanks! QuietHere (talk) 20:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

List of unreleased songs recorded by Michael Jackson
I have nominated List of unreleased songs recorded by Michael Jackson for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 11:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested input on Talk:Janelle Monáe
There's a discussion on Talk:Janelle Monáe about whether to change Monáe's pronouns, in the article, to they/them (the pronouns currently used are she/her) and if Monáe's choice of pronoun order should impact the pronouns used in the biography article. Historyday01 (talk) 21:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Stereotype (Karl Wolf album) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Stereotype (Karl Wolf album) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Stereotype (Karl Wolf album) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Eternal Sunshine (album)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Eternal Sunshine (album) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <b style="border-radius:3em;padding:4px;background:#37607C;color:white;">‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ </b> ‍ <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left"><sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬 "Will you call me?" <sub style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 23:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)