Talk:The President's Keepers

"List of Names"
Gregorydavid, I am going to delete this section unless it is put in context and significantly cleaned up. As it stands it is not at all useful - list of what names? It could even be seen as libellous since it conceivably links them to the subtitle "Those Keeping Zuma in Power and out of Prison". Zaian (talk) 06:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Zaian I have noted the tag attached to the list.
 * The list contains names appearing in the book and where applicable they are linked to existing Wikipedia articles. Where ambiguity relating to existing articles exists the names have been left un-linked. Where not relevant Wikipedia article exists the links are indicated red, indicating that new articles can be created where notable. Is there a time limit for the list to be improved?
 * Gregorydavid (talk) 12:56, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * No specific time limit Gregorydavid, but it is really not a useful list as it stands, so I think you should move it to a draft page until it is ready to be part of the article. Zaian (talk) 19:27, 11 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I have removed it. It is in the page history if you want to improve it before adding it back. Zaian (talk) 06:52, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I have removed it again. Adding "businessman" to an entry is not sufficient. For this to be useful, it needs to give proper context for each entry, e.g. "Person X - alleged to have met with Y in August 2016 and arranged Z.[ref]" But I seriously question whether this list has any place in the article, even if each item is given context and referenced - firstly, it is way too long, and secondly, how useful is a list is that includes the author, the alleged conspirators, other journalists, and random names like Barney Barnato (who died 120 years ago)? Zaian (talk) 09:52, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Zaian I have not put the list back or changed it since you removed it originally. Gregorydavid (talk) 15:47, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gregorydavid. After I deleted it, it was restored by an anonymous IP. Zaian (talk) 06:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC)