Talk:Tijuana/Archive 2

Agree with Tijuana and the media
I believe there should be a separate heading for media and the city. I currently have a short film that was completed with a partner and is being shown at an architectural biennale in Shenzhen, China. It offers a different perspective of Tijuana in an international setting viewed by many urban planners and architects...12.110.35.194 (talk) 22:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * See WP:COI and WP:SPAM about promoting your own work here. ✤ JonHarder talk 17:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing uncited claims
Please don't simply remove uncited claims when it results in adjacent parts of the article not making sense. The latest removals by RealmofShadows did this at least twice. This harms the article more than it helps, because remaining portions are then more confusing. An example - when removing a paragraph about Tijuana-San Ysidro being the world's busiest border crossing, the resulting article jumps from talking about a murder, immediately to the sentence, "Although tourism constitutes a large part of this movement". Basically, don't simply remove sentences or paragraphs when the following sentence refers back to them. You at least have to modify the other parts to remove the resulting unclear antecedents, or the article suffers. Bishop^ (talk) 18:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Tijuanear
Interesting addition, but I couldn't find any cites that back up the use of "tijuanear" as a positive except for a campaign by some sort of youth group to "use the word in a positive manner". The only news item I found using the verb "tijuanear" was one which stated that people did not want to drive their cars into Tijuana for fear that the bad roads and potholes would "tijuanear" ("tijuanaize") their car! Do we have some references citing the use of "tijuanear" as a positive?Bishop^ (talk) 19:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

External links in Spanish??
I know that this is an article about a city in a Spanish speaking country, but should it have external links to Spanish web-sites on the English version of Wikipedia?? Probably not, but I am willing to discuss. I think there is a policy on external links being in the language of particular version.--Jojhutton (talk) 00:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Too many entries in the education section
There are too many schools listed in the education section, where it should only include the higher education centers, namely the UABC, the Tecnologico and the Iberoamericana. 201.170.14.93 (talk) 05:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)HectorJW
 * I agree. Why do we need to know about all these high schools? Maybe if one or two of the high schools is really famous and/or produced a series of famous graduates... but otherwise that section is too saturated and should be limited to higher education centers.--Namenderkrieg (talk) 05:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed famous people
These people are not famous, nor relevant to tijuana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.171.187.124 (talk) 02:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Agree, i will remove irrelevant external links to famous people (tijuanarap.com). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.143.109.137 (talk) 01:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Tijuana's High Crime Rate (Again)
Some of the above sections contain a very enlightening and necessary discussion of some pressing issues facing Tijuana, but it is important to keep discussion of the city's rampant crime within its proper context. While the crime rate in Tijuana is very real and out of hand, the city is not defined by its relative lack of safety. Rather, like any other city on earth, Tijuana is defined by the substance of its social fabric, economy, and politics, as well as its history. Certainly, crime has affected the development of each of these four factors, but that is hardly the only part of Tijuana's story. Civil society goes on, regardless of the ongoing drug wars and the near-impunity with which violent criminals operate in the streets. Thus, while a section on crime and public safety would be quite helpful, it should by no means be central to the article.

The omission of criminal statistics from previous versions of the article should not be interpreted as a conspiracy to sugarcoat the present situation in the city. The previous writers clearly intended to inform the reader about the development of Tijuana and its role along the Mexico-U.S. border, but did not think to include relatively insignificant (for lack of a better term) incidents like violent attacks against American tourists or relatively recent developments like the rise of drug-related violence. (Recall that much of the early article was written before the escalation of the drug wars in early 2007.) Might I add, many of the above sources seem more concerned with the safety of tourists visiting Tijuana than with the effects of crime on the daily life of the average citizen. While the article should in no way denigrate the documented dangers posed to tourists in the city, it should be remembered that this is primarily a scholarly article about Tijuana, not an account about the reputation of Tijuana among Americans, tourists, businessmen, and other outsiders. -- Namenderkrieg (talk) 23:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

n Edit of Playas de Tijuana as a merge with TJ is not a great idea
Merging these two entries in Wikipedia may have good intentions however Tijuana and Playas de Tijuana are actually two separate towns separated by a mountain ride and a canyon. Although the city of Tijuana actually includes Playas and additionally Rosarito further south along the coast from Playas; all three of these towns and other municipalities or colonias are separate places.

If a cab driver is told the destination is Playas then he knows where to go. If the instructions are Tijuana then the destination is somewhere other the Playas de Tijuana. Besides geographic locations differences and the Taxi or bus route directions clearly distinctive more important is the spirit of Playas, the local culture, history, and people which are all individual from Tijuana.

All of us in Playas love Tijuana. It is hard to beat the fun, dinning, night life, swap meets, museums, art galleries, dinning, and a million other attractions not found in Playas. Playas is mellow, Tijuana is wild and exciting.

Merging the two is not fair to ether. After living in Playas for nearly 6 years I would feel a bit slighted as if my home and the place that call my Nirvana with a panoramic view of the Pacific Ocean from my home on the bluffs just does not measure up to deserve its own place in Wikipedia. A link is a fine way to incorporate the two and therefore not allowing anyone to miss out on the valuable info offered here.

Jeffrey Hunter 1000 Pase de Costero Playas de Tijuana

Fashion and Novelty Ties by http://www.nicetiestore.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.160.155.24 (talk) 03:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

A word on the Tijuana/New Orleans murder comparison
Thought this would be an interesting piece so I put it in as they're comparable in population.

The New Orleans murder stats I provided are in their true form, the rate the media use I believe would be considered technically illegal by the experts. Both the Mexican group who've been producing these murder rate lists the last couple of years and the San Diego-based Cross Border Group have been guilty of using very amateurish methodology and appear to have no idea whatsoever about using murder rates properly. Though I thought the Mexican NGO's list was better for 2009, it was still a cobbled-together disaster, plagued (again) by original research, rushed (for the media?) almost before 2009 had even finished with vague sourcing. Neither are credible sources and should not be taken seriously.

People often express surprise when organisations such as these produce data supposedly showing New Orleans as being more dangerous than Tijuana. 'But I could swear Tijuana looks and feels more violent - I can't believe it!' they say - that's because it is.

In fact, not only is Tijuana more violent than New Orleans, it's far more violent than New Orleans.

Regards. Power Society (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I've removed this from the article. Comparisons with other cities may be seen as biased in some way. Power Society (talk) 05:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Cerro Colorado?
It lists that this mountain is near Tijuana, bu the Cerro Colorado article statees that it is part of the border between Chile and Argentina........ I'm thinking the latter is true.--Marhawkman (talk) 17:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * correction: it's the border between Chile and bolivia.--Marhawkman (talk) 17:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Umm... Did it ever cross your mind that there could be a less-famous mountain around Tijuana that was also called Cerro Colorado, and that it doesn't have its own Wikipedia article? It is fairly common for links to lead to unrelated articles on Wikipedia, if two subjects share the same name. Just because there's a Cerro Colorado in South America, and it has its own article, doesn't mean there isn't a mountain called Cerro Colorado around Tijuana, as well. --Namenderkrieg (talk) 07:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Map issue
Does anyone know how to edit maps in infoboxes? I'm pretty sure Tijuana isn't located somewhere off the coast of San Diego. Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 18:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)