Talk:Timeline of peptic ulcer disease and Helicobacter pylori

format
As I was discussing the FL candidacy of Timeline of tuberous sclerosis, I came to notice that the layout used used on this page was, at best, subpar. Using a table makes little sense when other formats are more useful. Since the other timeline looks like it will use a definition list format (see Help:List for how it works and WP:LAME for an example), I'm considering switching this one. I've made a converted version at User:Circeus/temp, any thoughts? Circeus 18:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks nice. The only problem I see is that is hard to see what counts as a different event in each year.  Could you use bulleted lists or a larger paragraph separation to distinguish different events? --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 19:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't mean to dissent, but I kind of liked the old format.  The blue shading and lines made it look more professional.  Gastro guy 06:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

What is this?
"Tarnopolskaya observes that penicillin cures some peptic ulcers.[13]"

This source is from a book, so I can't look at it. But "this is a cure" is a conclusion, not an observation. It would be like saying "he watched the actions of George Bush and observed that he made the best of all presidents". He didn't observe that; at best he concluded that. "Someone took penicillin and got better" can be observed, but the causal relation between the two cannot.

I just saw someone quote this from the Wikipedia article on Slashdot to bolster the claim that the drug companies conspired to hide it. After all, we "observed that it cured" ulcers in 1955.

I'm deleting this unless someone can demonstrate that 1) the book actually says that he "observed" something that can't be observed, 2) the book isn't just worded imprecisely and really means something like "observed that it seems to", and 3) the book is a reliable source despite containing this very dubious statement. Ken Arromdee (talk) 06:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Is this true?
From the background section: "Now, all major gastrointestinal societies agree that H. pylori is the primary nondrug cause of PUD worldwide, and advocate its eradication as essential to treatment of gastric and duodenal ulcers." I am aware that some diseases, such as smallpox and polio can in principle be 'eradicated' if the disease-causing vector has no non-human host. Since numerous animals have stomaches, I wonder if any of them might have the human-version of h. pylori. Hal9009az (talk) 22:12, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This article uses the term "eradication" in reference to eliminating an individual infection, rather than worldwide eradication of the disease. Perhaps this would be better described as elimination. No guidelines are recommending complete global eradication of H pylori. Rytyho usa (talk) 06:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)