Talk:Tomb of Kha and Merit

FYI French translations
I don't speak French so the work by Bruyère and others has been translated using Google Translate, which I have then cross-referenced with the various plans and figures so I'm preeeetty sure the text is correct. If it isn't, please alter it accordingly! Merytat3n (talk) 00:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Kha’s feminine statuette
I find it hard to believe that it depicts a man. Is there a reason for why his statue looks so feminine? I💖平沢唯 (talk) 07:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? All of the aspects of the statue are standard for depictions of men in the period. Women were never depicted with apron kilts and wigs in that style, with women instead being depicted in long gowns and usually with longer hair. Floral garlands were pretty common aspects of funerary paraphernalia, with them being draped over mummies, furniture, and even being strewn around tombs. A similar statuette style-wise that depicts a woman would be the Statuette of the lady Tiye, which is near-contemporary to the statuette of Kha and exhibits aspects standard to depictions of women in the period. Star11308 (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

"reminiscent of female genitalia"
in the food and drink section of what was in the tomb, it describes pieces of bread that was "reminiscent of female genitalia". can this description be more specific? female genitalia is a rather vague term and if it's meant to mean "oh it looks like a vulva" we should probably just say it looks like a vulva. idk. just a minor gripe 109.76.95.85 (talk) 23:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I will quote Forbes, who mentions these types of bread specifically: "A group of these loaves have deep crevices running off center longitudinally, while several others are characterized by deep central crevices or holes (which may or may not have a sexual/fertility connotation)." (Forbes 1998:107) Forbes certainly seems to be implying the loaves look like a vulva (but not in as many words) but then goes on to say we can't know if the bread shapes are typical or if they are special funerary ones due to a lack of comparative material. Since Forbes is the only one to mention these loaves I will edit the sentence to make it more generic. Hopefully a publication on the bread will appear in the next couple of years and give their thoughts on the bread shapes. Merytat3n (talk) 23:30, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 26 July 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for 18 days. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 19:50, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

TT8 → Tomb of Kha and Merit – Proposing this page be moved for recognizability and naturalness as outlined in WP:CRITERIA even though it would break consistency with other TT numbers (and I do so love consistency!).

Reasoning:
 * "Tomb of Kha and Merit" or something similar is often put before the TT number - eg: Schiaparelli's (1927) publication is "The Intact Tomb of the Architect Kha...", Forbes' (1998) publication is "Kha and Merit (TT8)", and Vassilika's (2010) is "The Tomb of Kha: The Architect". Museo Egizio's publication dedicated to the tomb is "La Tomba di Kha e Merit" (The Tomb of Kha and Merit), and their gallery is "Tomba di Kha" (Tomb of Kha). However, "Tomb of Kha and Merit" doesn't show up in this Google Ngram but the phrase "Kha and Merit" is essentially tied with "Tomb of Kha" in this Ngram


 * This Google Ngram shows that "TT8" is more used than "Tomb of Kha" or "TT 8" but this is complicated by the fact that ""TT8" is also a gene (and a treadmill according to Google).

Let me know what you think! Merytat3n (talk) 02:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Ancient Egypt has been notified of this discussion. Frostly (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Plan and section views of the chapel
Currently the page has a plan view of the chapel's interior walls only. I would love to include a plan and section view of the chapel and its court, such as the one published by Bruyère (1925) Pl.XIV and adapted by Vandier d'Abbadie (1939) fig. 1. (Vandier d'Abbadie's line and colour facsimiles of TT8's damaged paintings would be welcomed also!) The publications are in French by French authors but were, as far as I am aware, first published in Egypt, which had no formal copyright law until 1954. Presumably this means they are in the public domain in Egypt and in the US and are available for use. Please let me know if I am wrong! I see User:Hypnôs has uploaded a few pyramidion images from one of Bruyère's works so presumably I am in good stead. ):T9 Merytat3n (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I am erring on the side of these are still in copyright so I will have to use something else, get creative, or wait : ) Merytat3n (talk) 06:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)