Talk:Toronto-Dominion Bank

Stanford
Nothing about the Stanford scandal? It really needs (even a short) section.Mukogodo (talk) 13:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Disc. on moved page title
The addition of the (Canada) disambiguater into the article title seems rather unnecessary (per WP:QUALIFIER). On top of the fact it would very much be the primary topic, there is also the fact that there isn't even another TD Bank Group to disambiguate from in the first place (to the point that TD Bank Group already redirects here.... this is just excessive redirections).

I personally would have just already just moved the article to TD Bank Group, but opted to open up this discussion first for any editors that had concerns about the initial page move from Toronto-Dominion to TD Bank (I don't really have an opinion on that, though I do have one about what seems to be an unnecessary disambiguation in the current title). Leventio (talk) 16:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Charles Schwab IS a partial subsidiary.
Charles Schwab Corporation is 9.7% owned by TD, which makes it a partial subsidiary. Please stop undoing my revisions! Babesonion (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * A subsidiary is a company whose parent company is a majority shareholder that owns more than 50% of all the subsidiary company's shares. Charles Schwab Corporation doesn't qualify as one, so please refrain from adding it back blindly. Ptrnext (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

WP:STATUSQUO on the page name "Toronto-Dominion Bank"
The long-stable common name is "Toronto-Dominion Bank". Any other title fails WP:CRITERIA. Any rename would require a full requested move discussion. —Joeyconnick (talk) 04:31, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Agree with User:Joeyconnick that the page should remain the way it was. User:Leventio — I see you brought this up here as well, and were neutral about it. Do you have any other thoughts on the page move, since User:Babesonion doesn't agree? Ptrnext (talk) 04:38, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Cards on the table, I'm more partial to the "Toronto-Dominion Bank" name as it is the long-established stable name used for the article. In saying that, I didn't really feel that strongly about it, and was sort of waiting for someone else to bring up that issue. In saying that, I don't believe that this should be fought over through edit summaries, and would highly advise to discuss the naming issue here instead of trying to spark a WP:PMWAR Leventio (talk) 16:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Nobody calls it “Toronto-Dominion Bank” in the USA or Canada. TD Bank is what everyone calls it, and what the company is known as. A legal name for a company is one thing, but it is what they are doing business as that should be the page title because it is most familiar with customers. Toronto-Dominion Bank is doing business as TD Bank Group (holding company), and they have been for many decades now. Babesonion (talk) 20:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
 * While I agree that "TD Bank" (without Group at the end) is the common name, the fact multiple divisions/subsidiaries also operate under that name would necessitate the article to have a disambiguation. Toronto-Dominion Bank is the an adequate title to use for disambiguation purposes as it is a natural disambiguation (legal) that is precise (per WP:TITLE).


 * Also, I'd contend the claim that that "TD Bank Group" is a more common name over "Toronto-Dominion Bank", and should therefore be the disambiguator used (keep in mind the WP:COMMONNAME policy pertains to what is more common in published sources). Doing a cursory search of "TD Bank Group" on Google only brings back 378,000 results (in contrast to 1,020,000 results for "Toronto Dominion Bank"). Search results using Google ngrams also shows Toronto-Dominion Bank is used more than TD Bank Group. Leventio (talk) 00:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)