Talk:Tu Cheng-sheng

Nationality
Beautiful Formosa has been changing Tu's nationality from Republic of China (Taiwan) to Republic of China. I want to point out that there is indeed a pre-established consensus on this. And it is part of the naming convention too. Please see WP:NC-TW.-- Jerrch 20:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

We cannot just make up random things like this. For a fact, the ROC ID cards and passport say Nationality: Republic of China, only. They do not say (taiwan) or anything. Why does Ma Ying-jeou and Vincent Siew have ROC only, while the pro Taiwan independence biographies have Taiwan or ROC (TAIWAN). This is ridiculous to have double standards. Some people are obviously trying to promote a political agenda. Beautiful Formosa (talk) 23:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I did not make up anything. WP:NC-TW is based on a pre-established consensus. Also, what you said about articles on other people does not matter. I only concerned about this article.-- Jerrch 01:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait, that is pretty sad. We need to strive for uniformity on Wikipedia. You can't just make it up. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I am concerned with ALL ROC biographies. There is no reason why he is special. Beautiful Formosa (talk) 06:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Uhh...Do you even know what a crystal ball is? How is Tu special? I am only following the pre-established consensus.-- Jerrch 15:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You can't make up your own consensus. You need to follow the ROC govt. Beautiful Formosa (talk) 03:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't have to follow the ROC government. There was a pre-established consensus. See the talkpage of WP:NC-TW.-- Jerrch 03:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm contesting the naming standards. We need to re-evaluate the standards in line with the future ROC regime. Beautiful Formosa (talk) 06:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * We usually don't reevaluate conventions with political regimes. Even if the Ma administration decides to eliminate every single references to "Taiwan" in every government organ, as long as international medias and reliable sources show that "Taiwan" is still the common name, Wikipedia will not change its conventions for politically motivated users.-- Jerrch 16:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Member of DPP
I remember that Tu isn't a member of DPP (joining a political party in Taiwan is more rigid than in the U.S.). But I am not so affirmative... luuva (talk) 20:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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