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Hi Dxneo, we use the Billboard chart because it combines both streaming and radioplay into its numbers (and thus is more accurate as a national chart), whereas TOSAC has separate charts for streaming and airplay, and is therefore not as useful. See WP:CHARTMATH for more details. Thanks —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 17:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A ranking of the top songs based on streaming and sales activity from within the country- as tracked by Luminate. The ranking is based on a weighted formula incorporating official-only streams on both subscription and ad-supported tiers of leading audio and video music services, plus download sales from top music retailers within the territory.
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Therefore, it does not say anything about the airplay and I also noticed that there's also US Afro but not her national charts, so what's going on? dxneo (talk) 17:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the Tyla discography section however, she has charted in so many countries around the world so its good to show the global spread by having one chart from each country (except for US Afro bc she's charted a lot of songs there so its proof to readers that she has made a massive impact on that market-- unlike the TOSAC radio chart where's shes only ever charted two songs if I'm not mistaken?).
What I'm trying to say is that because Tyla has had fewer charting songs on TOSAC compared to Billboard SA, replacing the Billboard chart with the TOSAC chart on the table would make it look like she's not as popular as she actually is here. Therefore having the Billboard chart in the table is a more accurate representation of how famous and successful she is in her home country. What are your thoughts? —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 18:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay Cybertrip, let's start here, which fewer songs charted on TOSAC as compared to Billboard? If you can name at least one song that charted on Billboard South Africa Songs and not on TOSAC, I will rest my case. I don't see why they cannot co-exist. dxneo (talk) 18:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dxneo: Art and Jump have both not charted on the TOSAC chart (NB: I'm looking specifically at the "Local & International" airplay chart bc the Local one is exclusive to SA artists and doesn't encompass the entire music market, thus making it subjective to what the country consumes) —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 18:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cybertrip, precisely my point. We are talking about South African charts here, not international, therefore you cannot look for international charts on national charts (not sure if that makes sense). For an example, see Lisa's discography and point out international charts on that list maybe I'm missing something. dxneo (talk) 19:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dxneo: Both the TOSAC and the Billboard chart are still South African charts since they both represent the music consumption of our country, but I think you might be misunderstanding TOSAC's use of the words "local" and "international" perhaps? They use these words to refer specifically to the citizenship/nationality of the ARTISTS whose songs are charting. I can compare the TOSAC Local Top 10 to the New Zealand (Artists) Top 20 chart, which ranks songs specifically by artists from New Zealand (denoted by the little green icon on the corner of each single cover), where as the New Zealand (Official) Top 40 chart, like the TOSAC Local & International chart, ranks all songs by NZ locals AND foreigners (or "internationals" in the words of TOSAC) combined. By this definition, all of the charts listed on Lisa (rapper)#Discography are technically "international" charts because none of them are exclusive to native artists of those countries. Hope this clears that up? —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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