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On 15 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Typhoon Doksuri (2023) to Typhoon Doksuri. The result of the discussion was moved.

Damage images[edit]

Can we add my images of the CAR and Pangasinan provinces after Doksuri? Songda Talas 05:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SongdaTalas: Definitely! If you took these pictures yourself, upload them on Commons under an appropriate license, and add them into the article. Chlod (say hi!) 05:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They have been on commons (I took them while on a Victory Liner bus). Will choose some to add now. Songda Talas 06:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe there are any issues with using photos you have taken yourself so long as they are a fair and accurate representation of the subject and show what you are intending to show. Jurisdicta (talk) 16:58, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Damage Total Source[edit]

After looking through the sources both listed here on Wiki and in general on Google, I can't find the source supporting the 15+ Billion dollars of damage in China from the storm. While I don't doubt it might get there considering the flooding in Beijing, this seems like someone may have rushed to judgement. -Blueony Blueony (talk) 06:06, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Blueony: Ref #169 (https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/impact-floods-china-after-typhoon-doksuri-2023-08-11/) lists $13.25 billion in Heibei and $2.04 billion in Fujian. Chlod (say hi!) 06:10, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, didn't see that one, wasn't linked in the article directly from the damage total and sometimes the sources get tangled. Good to know. Blueony (talk) 06:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 August 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:56, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Doksuri (2023) → Typhoon Doksuri – This Doksuri is the second-costliest typhoon on record and it killed over 130 people. It was also more powerful and significant than the other Doksuris. EvilDumplingDuck (talk) 12:21, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree Insendieum (talk) 09:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Clearly the more notable Typhoon Doksuri, having the year in the title is redundant considering the other typhoon named doksuri is far less notable. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 01:17, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support – per RandomInfinity17.
Romer234 (talk) 05:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support – per RandomInfinity17 and Romer234. Songda Talas 12:23, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support – per RandomInfinity17; plus the fact that it has a probable chance of retirement due to its extensive damages and notable death count.

~ Sandy 14156 (Talk ✉️) 00:06, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support – if the storm didn't retire, it would clearly be a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, due to the devastation across the country, which became the strongest storm to impact Fujian, China, since Typhoon Meranti. HurricaneEdgar 01:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Typhoon Doksuri (2023) vs Typhoon Doksuri (2017), as a result, Doksuri (2023), clearly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. HurricaneEdgar 03:45, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Obviously the primary topic. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 11:47, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Chlod (say hi!) 14:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support as it clearly follows WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, regardless if the name Doksuri gets retired or not. Vida0007 (talk) 02:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yep its expensive Wayner235! (talk) 07:22, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, clearly the primary topic. 199.76.112.9 (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Links[edit]

there is already a link to other doksuris Wayner235! (talk) 07:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some proof from article[edit]

Typhoon Doksuri, known in the Philippines as Super Typhoon Egay, was a powerful, deadly and destructive tropical cyclone, which became the costliest typhoon to hit China on record, the strongest typhoon to impact Fujian since Typhoon Meranti in 2016, and the most powerful typhoon to strike the province since records began in 1950. Notice 'deadly', 'destructive' and some records. Wayner235! (talk) 07:27, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]