Talk:Ubbi dubbi

Redoing this page
I'm redoing this page to include an infobox, and also another dialect, called "Obby Dobby". Please add more information if you have it. Thanks! –Benjamin 17:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Simpler sentence?
i think it would be better to have a simpler sentence for the example. Saying Ubbi Dubbi in Ubbi Dubbi language is for the advanced student. Kingturtle 23:51 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)

The Origin of Ubbi Dubbi
I am extremely fluent in ubbi dubbi and speak it all the time with my sister.

I think it would be important to note that I have a friend who's mother taught him Ubbi dubbi long before Zoom or Bill Cosby. It's been around for possibly over 100 years.


 * I will be sure to note that, as the current article seems to indicate that Ubbi Dubbi was invented by ZOOM. –Benjamin


 * My grandmother taught the "opo-goppo" variant to me; she said she used it in high school, which would have been in the early 1920s. When I first heard the "Zoom" variant I thought it was a cheap knock-off.  Uranographer 13:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Pig Greek
Before Zoom existed, I read a book that contained several "languages" such as Pig Latin and it mentioned one called Pig Greek which was identical to Ubbi Dubbi except that it used "ob" instead of "ub" Xyzyxx 03:18, 7 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I think that would be The Cat's Elbow; I've read that book too. I'm redoing this page, so I'll incorporate that dialect, alternately called "Obby Dobby".  –Benjamin 17:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I grew up with Ob, which we found on a video tape at the library. It's functionally the same as ubbi Dubbi as cited on this page, but I never heard the longer name until recently; the language was called Ob (my brother and I still speak it fluently; my younger brother can't make heads or tails of it, and spouts gibberish in response). I'm guessing I was ten or younger when we saw the tape, making it at least 1988.  Oh, and I suggest that you add to the examples the best word I've found so far: Bobby (Bobobboby). Kilyle 22:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Like Kilyle, I grew up speaking one of the ob languages (1980's) and am not familiar with the obby dobby format of the name. I've met a good number of Ob speakers and none has ever called it that.  I once found a book for kids which was published in the 30's and spoke of Ob. In fact I think this article used to be entitled Ob Language a couple years back.  I think Ob is older than Ubbi Dubbi. It'd be interesting to track this down and figure out where the variations come from.  I myself speak the variation the page calls Arpy Darpy. We always just called it Arp.  I learned it from my father who learned it as a kid in the 50's. He tried to track it down and learned from friends that they'd learned it from their sisters who had spoken it in an office in the mid 40's. My Dad substituted a B for the P in arp because it's easier to speak with a soft B than a hard P.  I too speak it fluently. My father speaks it so fast and well that even I, who grew up with it, don't always catch what he's saying. --Lendorien 22:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

IZ and IZZLE
I'd like to note that IZ actually predates Boomerang. The first musical use of the "izz" infixes came from funk musician Frankie Smith's 1981 hit single "The Double Dutch Bus". The form used in the song doesn't put Iz after the second sylable, but it is definately an Ob language. There's an article about Iz as well in -izzle. The informatioon provided here is inaccurate and doesn't match the main article. I think this is worth correcting and linking. --Lendorien 22:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Opish
The article Opish refers directly to Ubbi Dubbi type languages. These should probably be merged together. I'd really like to see if we/I can figure out the descendancy of these languages so that we can properly place the entire content of both articles under the most accurate title. I also note that the article Gibberish (language game) refers to Ubbi Dubbi like language games. That might be an article to include in a merge as well. --Lendorien 00:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Given its recent addition to WikiWorld; I'm unsure if this merge should go forward. - RoyBoy 800 19:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Aighi Paighi
I learnt Aighi Paighi from school friends in the 1960s and used to be able to speak it quite fluently (though I've never seen it written before). I discovered (unhappily) that my mother was also a fluent speaker. Apparently, she had several uncles who spoke it amongst themselves and had taught it to her in the 1930s. So this variant goes back some way, too. Also, we always referred to it as "Sago Dago", rather than Aighi Paighi! Bluewave (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Bert Vaux
Bert Vaux, a professor of linguistics at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee, has made a study of Ubbi Dubbi. If you can find it, please use its contents to improve the article. Thanks. -- Suntag  ☼  12:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Cosby/Mushmouth
Do we have evidence that "Ubbi dubbi" covers Cosby's "Mushmouth" vocal pattern? If you listen to the dentist sketch, the word "okay" is rendered not as "ubokubay" but as "obe-kaybe", and "fire" becomes not "fubire" but "fibere". In other words, the "b" sound (with accompanying vowel) is added after the vowel, not before. This seems a significant difference relative to all of the examples given here. Powers T 13:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ubbi Dubbi Rigorization
I really think that saying one must merely add ub before every vowel sound is misleading. Someone more experienced with ubbi dubbi can correct me if I'm wrong, but my own understanding is that there is only one ub added per syllable. So a syllable that contains more than one vowel sound (i.e. a diphthong) would get only one ub. For example, goiter would become guboituber rather than guboubituber.へるぷみぃ/tasukete (talk) 08:11, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * へるぷみぃ is correct about the rules of ubbi dubbi, but I think the definition is clear just as it's written. Ordinary speakers of English (by which I mean native speakers who are not linguists) consider diphthongs to be single vowel sounds. In the U.S., many dictionaries use a respelling system with diacritics to indicate pronunciation, and these systems use a single letter for many diphthongs. (E.g. "write" /raɪt/ is represented by rīt, "go" /goʊ/ is represented by gō). --ABehrens (talk) 04:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

And the article referenced contradicts the Wikipedia page--it has an example in which ub is inserted before a silent vowel, which the Wikipedia page parenthetically forbids. So one of them has to be wrong, and I would tend to think it's the referenced article.へるぷみぃ/tasukete (talk) 08:11, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, the referenced article is wrong. I'll see if I can find a better reference. --ABehrens (talk) 04:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Poor example
The stress in the word "hello" is in fact usually on the second syllable, not the first. When an expression of surprise (c.f. Mike Myers) the stress may fall on the first syllable, but it doesn't have to even then; as simple greeting it never falls on the first, to my knowledge. May I suggest that some qualified ubbidubbist rewrite that section using an unambiguous example? Laodah 19:25, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Labanguabage
Are you sure about the link to the article in Hebrew? The rules are maybe a bit different. The Hebrew code is used in Abanibi. הראש (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2018 (UTC)