Talk:Unit 4 + 2

Important point
I believe - someone correct me if I am wrong - that the group were the first British act to make a pop video. "Concrete and Clay" had them roaming around a building site, lip-synching the lyric, and this I think beats even The Beatles. If I am correct, this should be mentioned in the text as it is a significant milestone and a part of history for which the group deserve recognition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.164.105 (talk • contribs)
 * It's possible, but it would need to be sourced in order to be included.  freshacconci  speak to me  23:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Title
Why is this article under the Unit 4 + 2 title ?!? The Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums has them listed as Unit Four Plus Two. Can anyone explain ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

http://www.waybackattack.com/images/unitfourplustwo-concr.jpg Pookerella (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Buster Meikle
The article gives him as still living in Norfolk but I'm fairly sure, or at least it was reported to me, that he'd died at Cheshunt in the early years of the first decade of the 21st century. Can anybody verify this?Jatrius (talk) 13:18, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Other individuals
Question: I will post this again as its fact, even though David Regimbal keeps removing the following: Howard Conder played drums on this record released on Fontana Records 1967…. The studios were near Marble Arch central London, song was written by the Bee Gees. The strongest voice on this record is easily recognised which is Mike Lesley. Mike and myself also played with Unit 4+2 on `live`gigs for many months.

I posted this last night and it was removed today and I want to know why?

Thanks Howard Conder hlc@revelationtv.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.235.36.62 (talk) 15:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

sorry, I forgot to put the name of the track namely: BUTTERFLY which I have now done... see

Thanks Howard Conder hlc@revelationtv.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.235.36.62 (talk) 15:14, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * There are several reasons. Can I suggest you read Verifiability, Identifying reliable sources and Conflict of interest.  Please bear in mind Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fan site, and it has basic editing guidelines in place.  These are partly to stop random posts by individuals who could make all sorts of claims regarding membership of bands, playing on certain records, live appearances etc.  Please have a read, Howard, and also stop by at Five pillars. Thanks,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Derek, I will try and follow the guidelines.... I have a different user name and email address now so that might help show i am who I am...

Is it worth copying this to somewhere else to get your approval ?

I was looking at Wikipedia last night and discovered some facts were either missing or one sided and added to a few of the various things I have been involved in throughout my life and career in the music industry and they have been removed.

This one was about Unit 4+2 so my question was sent to ???? To ask why it was removed: Question: I will post this again as its fact, even though Davi= d Regimbal keeps removing the following: Howard Conder played drums on BUTTERFLY record released on Fontana Records 1967=8A. The studios were near Marble Arch central London, song was written by the Bee Gees. The strongest voice on this record is easily recognised which is Mike Lesley. Mike and myself also played with Unit 4+2 on `live`gigs for many months.

There were other records I played on, some with my name on the records, which is a lot easier to verify but some not so obvious.

Howard Conder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardconder111 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Jade Warrior
The article on Jade Warrior (band) claims that some of its members were in Unit 4+2, but there's no mention of them in this article... which is right? Grutness...wha?  07:45, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Split sales but they had the publishing
Considering the money, was, is, and always will be in the publishing, which sometimes includes a percentage of record sales added in, whether or not sales were split by the Eddie Rambeau record (which I never heard once in my life), Moeller and Parker still made a pretty penny off of whatever sales his records made. English managers and record companies were not notorious for stealing royalties (by insisting they sign over their rights) from their artists like American companies and managers did. So they did okay regardless of whose record was being played. Pookerella (talk) 17:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Greg Lake
I ended up coming here from the article about Greg Lake. That says he played for Unit Four. There's no page for Unit Four; should he be mentioned here? Number774 (talk) 10:19, 7 January 2021 (UTC)