Talk:Variations of basketball

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A couple of things...

A common variation of 21 not listed is the "tip" rule which resets a player's score to 0 if his shot is missed and another player "tips" in the rebound, i.e. taps the rebound in before his feet touch the ground.

There are a number of other variations that could be listed:

Knockout/Machine Gun/Lightning - played with 2 basketballs (I think there's a stub for Knockout)

Around the World (a shooting contest from different spots on the floor)

Money in the Bank (a pressure free throw shooting contest - each consecutive free throw made puts a point in the bank, the contestant that breaks the streak gets all of the points, whoever gets to a predetermined number of points is eliminated)

Poison (don't know the exact rules)

PK9 23:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I remember playing a game which I think we called "21" but was different than the version listed here. A player would attempt a shot from half court, run to rebound the ball as quickly as possible whether the first shot was made or missed, put up a second shot from there and rebound for a third and last shot. In theory, each shot would be closer than the proceeding one and hence easier to make. Five points were awarded for a first-shot basket, then 3 and finally one. Each play took turns with this sequence until one reached 21 points. Wschart (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

SMU (?)
The following was cut & pasted from the SMU disambiguation page:


 * SMU is also the name of a basketball game named after St. Mary's University. It is a free for all game usually played by atleast 3 people but sometimes is played with two. When someone scores a basket they get two points and go to the foul line to take shots worth one point. If you make three foul shots in a row you check up the ball and try to score again. It is played until someone gets to 21 points but if you go over 21 your score is set back to 13. "Tips" are also a part of the game, that is wear someone tips in a missed shot by someone else and that persons score is set back to zero. This game is popular in Eastern Canada and in differant places the rules are usually slightly tweaked. e.g. being eliminated when tipped at zero, and having to clear the ball. Other similar basketball games include: 21, horse, face, cuteye and 101.

I don't know whether to include it on here so I pasted to this discussion page instead just to be safe.

description for HORSE
i suggest someone with half decent writing skills rewrite this section; it's terribly confusing.
 * Tried to clean it up a bit. JudahH (talk) 22:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Re the recent round of edits involving me and Qwyrxian
OK, first of all there's the issue of whether non-gender-specific "he" is acceptable. We can discuss this if you like, but we're probably not going to change each other's minds: I'm just a conservative while you're a liberal, at least when it comes to this matter. This shouldn't be an issue: you don't seem to have noticed that my recent edit which you reverted (and I then re-reverted) didn't introduce any "he"s, though to me they're fine. All of it used entirely gender-neutral language. That's what editing Wikipedia's about: making compromises that are agreeable to both sides; otherwise it's just an exercise in frustration.

Which brings me to my second point: that's why just reverting my last edit was unhelpful. You say that my version was harder to understand: OK, fair enough, but I had reasons for the changes I made too. There were issues with the version I edited (some of which may have been introduced by me with my earlier edit). For instance, the article said, "No player is assessed a penalty letter," yet didn't introduce the penalty letters until the next paragraph. It redundantly described the process of a round, in very similar words, in two consecutive paragraphs. It included the pronoun kludge "him or her" which probably irks me as much as epicene "he" irks you. Granted, that last change is about an issue that won't bother you in the least, but as I said before, compromise is good, and, in any case, the other changes were all for reasons that we ought to agree on.

If my tighter version ended up being harder to understand, then by all means edit that version. Make it better. But please, don't just revert. JudahH (talk) 09:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Date
We played HORSE as a kid and that was in the 60-70's.

what about baseket ball? what about tackle basketball?
can i add these —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.34.215 (talk) 06:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, Speed should be in here
I used to play Speed it should be listed in here:
 * The Rules: Two people are in at a time, each with a ball. The Person who gets the ball first (hereandafter Man 1) must make a basket before Man 2, If Man 2 makes it before Man 1, Man 1 is out, if man 1 makes it before Man 2, Man 2 is still in. In any way they make the shot the ball is givin to the next person in line and the 1 or 2 people who made the shot goes to the end of the line. If one is out, one must catch an Airball (A shot that does not touch the rim, net, or backboard) to get back in, the person who shot the Airball is out until he can catch an airball. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.165.199 (talk) 22:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Remove everything unsourced?
I am very strongly tempted to remove every unsourced game on this page (i.e., almost all of them). The fact that many of them have been in the article unsourced for years, people routinely "correct" the rules (even though there's no evidence that there are any widely agreed upon rules in any case), and people often add new games without sources, such that we can't tell whether this is a widely played, common game, or just something someone made up with their friends one day. I'm sure that the more common games are verifiable (there must be books for kids of games they can play), but without that verification, I don't see how we can maintain the accuracy of this list. Does anyone have any less destructive way to proceed? I would rather be able to keep some of these games, as I'm sure some of them are, in fact, widely enough played to deserve an entry on this list, but I simply don't know of any other way to move forward. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Try to find some sources? Check a local library. Books on coaching basketball are probably a good place to start as they will have games intended to improve skills. Simishag (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't have a "local library" (I live in a non-English speaking country). Furthermore, the burden for finding sources is on those who want to include the information in the first place. Again, I think it's fine for this info to start out unsourced, because it's certainly neither contentious nor related to a BLP issue. However, this article has been tagged as having OR since July 2008, and who knows how long it was in there prior to that.  At some point, we have to remove the unverified information.  After doing so, of course, anyone is welcome to re-add sourced information at a later date.Qwyrxian (talk) 01:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Five months later, we've actually seen even more unsourced variants, names, rules, etc. added. Wikipedia is not a dumping ground for every game/variant that people have played at one time or another. With reliable sources, a reader (or editor) has no way to distinguish between a common game played in every high school across the country, and games that one person made up one day.  Given that some of the information has been marked as needing a citation since 2007 (!), the only reasonable solution at this point to make the article comply with WP:V is to remove all information that is unsourced (I also retained the set of games that have their own Wikipedia article, as presumably sources exist there).  People are, of course, welcome to re-add other games so long as the can be verified by a reliable source.  Qwyrxian (talk) 23:44, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

This is all a bunch of this's and that's I get from the Fuck,Page. --67.242.173.11 (talk) 00:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Qwerty

Merging contents of Beach Basketball into Variations of basketball
As a result of AfD discussions for Beach Basketball, it was decided to rather merge it in a special section in Variations of basketball in ideally a shortened form. We appreciate your contributions of how to reflect beach basketball here. werldwayd (talk) 17:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC)